Translation help - 2 Dutch records

Natalie.McKenzie

Hello! I am seeking help translating 2 Dutch records from Belgium

Last time I posted one of these, the hyperlinks didn't seem to work, so below I have just put links to the records that can be copied and pasted into a browser.

1.) This first record is very special to me. This is a marriage record for my great great grandmother. My maiden name comes from her, and so nobody in my family thought she had been married - turns out she did get married, but not until years after my great grandfather was born out of wedlock.

I am hoping someone can provide a full translation as this record, as it means a lot to me

LINK: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-3QVR-RRC3?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AX9TW-LPX3&action=view&cc=2138481

(It is the record on the bottom of the right page, for Anna Catharina Francisca Daelemans and Petrus Joannes Van Den Aÿcke)

2.) The second record is one that I just have a feeling may have been indexed incorrectly. The indexed wedding date in FamilySearch says 1847, however all of the names/other details match a couple that could not have be married then. I do not need the full record translated, but if someone could double check any dates shown on the record, I would really appreciate it.

LINK: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6763-VHZ?view=index&action=view&cc=2138481

(It is the bottom right record for Pieter Francois Dieleman and Joanna Maria Daelemans)

gjt47

Hello Natalie,

2) The marriage record is not dated 1847, it is 24 September 1878 as recorded on the first line:

Den vierentwintigsten der maand September van het jaar duizend achthonderd acht en zeventig

The twentyfourth of the month September of the year thousand eighthundred eight and seventy

So you are right, the indexing of this record (and all other records on this image too) is incorrect.

Natalie.McKenzie

Thank you for confirming the date!

I don't know if this is a new feature, but FamilySearch let me go in and edit the indexed information, so I've fixed all of the years for those 4 records.

gjt47

1)

In the year nineteen hundred twenty-two, Sunday the seventeenth September
We Marne? Joseph, Mayor__________Officer of the Civil Register of the municipality HOBOKEN, province Antwerpen, have in accordance of the law of twenty-six December eightteen hundred ninety-one, at about noon, glued to the city hall a proclamation saying a promise of marriage exists to enter into marriage before us, between Van den Dijcke, Petrus Joannes, factoryworker, resident in Antwerpen, adult son of Joannes Theodorius, deceased and of Hemgenberg Coleta, housewife, in Anterpen residing, at one side; En:
Daelemans Anna Catharina Francisca, housewife, residing here, adult daughter of Corneille, deceased and of Grodard Marie Louise Pauline, no profession, at the other side

Of which we have put up this deed.

GilbertStaepels1

The date of the record of the marriage promise is NOT the actual marriage date. The actual marriage took place a few weeks later (at least 10 days after the announcement. The actual marriage record can probably be found in Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium or in Hoboken, Antwerp, Belgium.

GilbertStaepels1

your link https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-3QVR-RRC3?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AX9TW-LPX3&action=view&cc=2138481

This is a marriage record from Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium:
Record number = 918
Marriage date = 24 september 1878
Groom: Pieter François Dieleman, Servant in a wine business, born 17 July 1855 in Bruges, West-Flanders, Belgium, Son of Augustinus Dieleman, Natiebaas (head of a shipping acency in the port) en Coleta Cecilia Bourgenjon (both parents living in Antwerp and giving their consent to the marriage)

Bride: Joanna Maria Daelemans, no profession, born on 29 november 1845 in Zandvliet, Antwerp, Belgium, daughter of Petrus Josephus Daelemans (no profession) and Joanna Catharina Thomas (Thomas is the last name), both parents living in Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium and giving their consent to the marriage.