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    Can't find a New York death record

    James84179
    James84179 ✭
    December 28, 2024 in Social Groups

    https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GTRP-3G4

    Last census record I could find was in 1940. I also see he signed an oath of allegiance in Dec 1944 and see a social security life claim Nov 1950.

    After that, the trail goes cold…

    It's also not clear to me what the specific significance of the claim is. Checking the AAD database, it's listed as a "Life Claim"

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    • Áine Ní Donnghaile
      Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
      December 28, 2024

      A Social Security "life claim" indicates the number holder filed to collect Social Security benefits. In other words, the person was living in November 1950.

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    • LindaTG
      LindaTG ✭✭✭
      December 28, 2024

      @James84179

      Have you tried searching newspapers.com for an obituary? It is a paid site but they offer a 7 day free trial.

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    • James84179
      James84179 ✭
      December 28, 2024

      Thanks. I think that means I can limit my search to after Nov 1950 then. What's odd is he would have been 72 or 73 at the time of his naturalization, but waited till age 79 to collect benefits.

      Also odd I haven't been able to find a 1950 census record.

      I have tried newspapers.com in the past. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find anything. It's a fairly common name (lots of noise), and I've told they were very poor, so perhaps they couldn't afford an obituary in the newspaper.

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    • Áine Ní Donnghaile
      Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
      December 29, 2024 edited December 29, 2024

      There's a James Maguire of about the right age who died in Queens in 1951.

      https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/28529305?mark=7b22746f6b656e223a22684b35534835385a755761376e586636583542307863446c69796b39656f66584b5a6f57553043796752673d222c22746f6b656e5f76657273696f6e223a225632227d

      Edit to add - I found an obituary for that James, and the children listed are not a match. Sorry.

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    • LindaTG
      LindaTG ✭✭✭
      January 1

      @James84179

      There are many new records being added every day to FamilySearch.

      See this post in the FamilySearch Blog:

      "Recently, FamilySearch added 49.8 million new records to its free online archives. Some exciting additions include over 22 million additions to the United States City and Business Directories collection and over 19 million new records from the Philippines, covering civil registrations, Catholic Church records, and church censuses."

      So please check back often.

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    • Áine Ní Donnghaile
      Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
      January 1

      @LTG50 Unfortunately, New York City regulations do not permit FamilySearch to add more death records for those of us searching there.

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    • James84179
      James84179 ✭
      January 1 edited January 2

      So close, thanks for looking.

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    • LindaTG
      LindaTG ✭✭✭
      January 7

      @Áine Ní Donnghaile @James84179

      I found the following information by clicking on the home page for Atlantic States Research and the clicking on New York which takes you to the Wiki page.

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      That brought up the National Center for Health Statistics which specifically include Death Records since 1949. There is a fee, but orders are processed within 24 hours. There is a link to go to their web page.
      I sincerely hope this is helpful.

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    • James84179
      James84179 ✭
      January 7

      Thanks for the suggestion. I have considered ordering through NYC. Unfortunately, there's a charge per year searched, I was hoping to get it narrowed down before ordering and giving a ~20 year window.

      I'm also concerned that the lack of record might indicate his death didn't occur in NYC as well and that their search would turn up empty too.

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    • Áine Ní Donnghaile
      Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
      January 7

      @LTG50 I'm an experienced NYC and NYS researcher. I was responding to your comment about FS adding more records all the time. NYC has tightened the options making it much tougher for the researcher.

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    • LindaTG
      LindaTG ✭✭✭
      January 10

      @Áine Ní Donnghaile thank you. I appreciate your response.

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