Translation Request

LauraNelhiebel

Betseylee Browning

Do you have a link for this, please? Also, please tell us what you have figured out this far.

Betseylee Browning

I found the link on FamilySearch and am working on the translation.

Betseylee

Betseylee Browning

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89MC-M9FW?view=index&action=view&cc=1804263, Fülnek, 3rd down, born: 25 April 1868 and christened 28 April 1868, House 37, Infant: Robert Richerd Nelhiebel-Vaczulik, gebornen E__ blaschk N.E. 70 M Fülnek,
Father: Richard Nelhiebel Tüchfabrikant=cloth manufacturer in Fülnek son of +deceased Paul Nelhiebel Tücherzeügras=cloth grass in Fülnek and deceased Sofia born Esler Jakob Feldwebel=Sergeant from Kaünitz Regimente

Mother: Theresia daughter of deceased Alois Wescheta (Wischata) Herrschaftlicher=Lordl Gütszächters=estate manager Richter=Reeve an official representing nobility, in Seitendorf and der Leapoldina geboren Josef Böhm Herrschaftlichen=Lord Verwnetnes in Sznecibsch? n Bohmann.

Paragraph at bottom Des Erlasses des Minist? für C in Unterreicht dto 7 October 1905 Z. 42.878 und Siuun der note der k.k. Stn_ha ? v.14/10 1905 Z. 49.781
Google translate: "The decree of the Minister for C. in Education dated 7 October 1905, no. 42.878 and the note of the k.k. Stn_ha something dated 14/10 1905, no. 49.781"

Godparents: Frank Heinz Tuchfabrikant cloth manufacturer, Leopoldine Witwe=widow Tuchfabrikant cloth manufacturer and an x (could not write) for Alois Wischata Gütszächters=estate manager in Seitendorf

Another option for looking at records. Digital Archives of the Regional Archives in Opava, https://digi.archives.cz/da/SearchBean.action?searchType=basic

Fulnek
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulnek "At the end of the 18th and the beginning of the 19th century, Fulnek developed rapidly thanks to cloth and weaving production.[2]"
19th century map https://mapy.cz/19stoleti?source=muni&id=4620&ds=2&x=17.9412090&y=49.7546452&z=14
Current map: https://mapy.cz/zakladni?source=muni&id=4620&ds=2&x=17.9412090&y=49.7546452&z=14

1880 Census For Fülnek arranged by House # not indexed yet. Later years are available https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index?owc=Q67Z-WRZ%3A226980301%2C230900201%3Fcc%3D1930345&cc=1930345. Some censuses are indexed within the record.
I found Magdalena Nelhiebel born 19/7 1791 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G988-Y8WY?wc=Q67Z-3QF%3A226980301%2C228270301%2C226978203%2C228270302%26cc%3D1930345&cc=1930345&i=70

Found Theresia mother of Robert Richerd https://digi.archives.cz/da/permalink?xid=be855f9a-f13c-102f-8255-0050568c0263&scan=2fd527fe7a0c4cc6af4e910b34d37ca4 right side bottom Theresia Leopoleina Rosa Wisehata

Hladke Zivotice also in record as Seitendorf

Ortsverzeichnis von Österreich, Tschechien, Slowakei, Slowenien- Gazetteer
Lfdnr 60745
Ortsname Aktuell Hladke Zivotice
Ortsname Früher Seitendorf
Ortsname Deutsch
Ortsname Ungarisch
Ortsname Slowakisch
Ortsname Ukrainisch
Kronland Mähren
Pfarren in Tschechien (Geolocation)
Bezirk Jicin Novy
Pfarre(n)
Name Matrikenbeginn zuständiges Archiv
Zuständige Pfarre - Römisch Katholisch:
Hladke Zivotice 1785/1785/1785 Troppau
Vorpfarre - Römisch Katholisch:
Kujavy 1636/1636/1779 Troppau

current map:https://mapy.cz/zakladni?q=Hladk%C3%A9%20%C5%BDivotice&source=muni&id=4774&x=16.5329669&y=49.7361954&z=7
19th century map: https://mapy.cz/19stoleti?q=Hladk%C3%A9%20%C5%BDivotice&source=muni&id=4774&x=18.0029892&y=49.6808295&z=13

Index for E's in Fulnek https://digi.archives.cz/da/permalink?xid=be8550cc-f13c-102f-8255-0050568c0263&scan=6109fa3096b544fc85c097d90173cbba

Richter is German, rychtář is Czech
rychtář - Wiktionary, the free dictionary

Wiktionary
https://en.wiktionary.org › wiki › rychtář
https://cs-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Rycht%C3%A1%C5%99?_x_tr_sl=cs&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Referred to a village or small town magistrate, mainly posing as the judiciary for the given municipality. The office was cancelled in 1849.

Betseylee Browning

I will look at this again tomorrow.

Betseylee

LauraNelhiebel

Thank you so much!! This part of the family history has been such a mystery to my husbands family - 30+ people :)

Betseylee Browning

You are welcome. I hope you can understand all the additional info. Feel free to ask questions. This, I have to admit, was a hard one.

Betseylee

LauraNelhiebel

Translation request. I am very excited - with your help I am actually making progress!! This is the next entry I found:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89MC-M9N9?view=index&personArk=/ark:/61903/1:1:6P97-7FH3&action=view&cc=1804263

LauraNelhiebel

translation request - another one!

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61634/images/49345_b707844-00144?treeid=&personid=&rc=&queryId=b0040bd9-661e-4be0-b6d0-7392d9bb6ae2&usePUB=true&_phsrc=NyA124&_phstart=successSource&pId=166195355

Betseylee Browning

image 118, left side 4th down, Birth 31 January 1842, Christening: 1 February 1842, House 37, Infant: Richard Heinrich Nellhiebel, Catholic, Male, legitimate, Father: Paül Nellhiebel, tuchmacher=cloth maker master, v hier=from here, Catholic, Mother: Sophia, daughter of +deceased Jakob Eller Corporals v=from Kaünitz Inf.=Infnatry)____ and Magdalena geboren Thim Sleischhaünrmeisters=butcher's master from here. OO Marriage 6.2.1837 v 43/1

Betseylee Browning

I do like helping you but you will have so many records that will need translation and I would rather teach you how to fish. For the marriage you posted, would you please tell me what you can figure out? I will double-check it and teach you what you don't know. Czech research uses three different languages German, Czech, and Latin. I don't speak anything but English. I have put some help in the Czechia Community Resources. I would recommend taking some of the Kurrent handwriting classes. Here is a link: https://community.familysearch.org/en/discussion/119261/czechia-group-resource-links#latest

LauraNelhiebel

excellent - I love that idea. I will work on the link you gave me immediately

Betseylee Browning

Added some info to your Alois Wišchata and his wife. I looked at the children's christenings which I found on FamilySearch. Enjoy!

Betseylee

LauraNelhiebel

Found a website at Transkribus.org that uses AI to translate. Probably not perfect, but maybe gives a good place to start for people that are interested.

Betseylee Browning

I had never heard of it. If you try it please let me see an example. Did you go to Alois? I added Leopoldina's surname and her father.

Betseylee

LauraNelhiebel

I will try it with one of your translations and we can compare them side by side. It will be fun

Betseylee Browning

Good idea.