Sweden - Trying to find household record from birth record
Johan Ferdinand was born 8 April 1815. There are several household books but I am struggling to figure out the name of the farm. Is the farm even listed on this birth record?
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There seems no address to be given in the record. Note that Norrköping is a city and that the father of Johan Ferdinand is a "police upsyningsman" = police officer. So he lived in the city and not on a farm.
The household books for Norrköping are organised by "kvarteren", i.e. city districts, and you would probably have to go through all of them to find this particular family.
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Since MyHeritage indexed the Swedish Household records for ArkivDigital, if you have a MyHeritage membership, you can search the HR in MyHeritage by name and birthdate just as you would in ArkivDigital.
I was able to find a record for "Polis Upsyn. Joh Jac Shultze" in 1814 in Norrköping St Olai. That record is here in Riksarkivet:
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0017305_00015#?c=&m=&s=&cv=14&xywh=435%2C1434%2C1501%2C1080.
If you have access to MyHeritage, you can see the record here:
Unfortunately, this record is before the birth of Johan Ferdinand in 1815 and there is no record of a spouse or other family members.
If I have a chance today, I will go to a FamilySearch Center near my home to look for him in ArkivDigital (ArkivDigital's searches work a bit better than MyHeritage's searches).
I was able to find a marriage record for Johan Jacob Shultze and Anna Greta Söderholm here: https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10180-180491297/joh-jac-schultze-in-sweden-household-examination-books#fullscreen.
I don't see any clues as to a residence for either the groom or bride.
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After doing a little more research in MyHeritage this morning, I think I have found Johan Ferdinand as a foster son. He is called J F Schultz (b. 1815) in the record and is living with bryggare (brewer) J Söderholm and his wife Anna Maria. The reason I believe this might by the same Johan Ferdinand as in your birth record is that one of the sponsors/witnesses in the baptism/christening record is "bryggern Joh Jac Soderholm". That household record is here in Riksarkivet: https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0017311_00111#?c=&m=&s=&cv=110&xywh=536%2C2535%2C1174%2C845.
In MyHeritage the record is here: https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-10180-180516210/fr-shultz-in-sweden-household-examination-books#fullscreen.
This might indicate that Johan Ferdinand's parents may have left him with an uncle (assuming that Joh Jac Söderholm is the brother of his mother, Anna Greta Söderholm). That is a bit of a stretch, but not out of the realm of possibility.
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Well done @Norm Baker !
I was not aware of the indexing in MyHeritage and ArkivDigital (and I don't have access to any of them), but that helps a lot!
I can add a detail: In the 1814 household examination it is noted that Joh. Jac, Schulze is born in or comes from "Zelle i Hannov. land" which probably points to Celle in Germany (see https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10290004), which would also explain his surname Schul(t)z or Schulze, a name very frequent in Germany, but uncommon in Sweden.
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Thanks so much for all your help. I arrived at our center and was all set to spend lots of time going through the books then I saw your messages. I do have lots of experience with that so it all works out.
I do have MyHeritage but I do not have that information with me so I will need to try it at home. I did try using ArkivDigital but I was unable to find them in the search. I do not have a birth date for either parent yet so I am sure that is why I could not find them.
Possible mentions in moving-in book but I can not seem to find him.
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0017402_00045
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0017402_00052
Here is the marriage record for Johan Jacob Schultze and Anna Greta Söderholm. It looks like Johan a widow.
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0017425_00271
It looks like on the record where he is shown as a foster child it is possible that his father is listed on the top of the page as a widow and died in 1827.
I am still looking through all that was sent. This is so helpful.
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No that is not his father at the top of the page. I think it is showing Johanna S. Schultz shown on this record.
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(Didn't see Norm had responded before posting this)
I searched in the ArkivDigital population index and found them in a household record (this is the ArkivDigital reference and the freely viewable image on RiksArkivet). The Schultz family is the second family from the top on the lefthand page.
ArkivDigital: Norrköpings S:t Olai (E) AI:15 (1814-1821)
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0017307_00035
I also located Anna Greta Söderholm in the Swedish Death Index 9. Here is the corresponding record in Riksarkivet.
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0017425_00375
The death index also gives her birthdate as 8 Mar 1792 with no place.
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@Forrest Emmett Wow!! Thank you!!
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