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GallupECarolyn
GallupECarolyn ✭
September 25 in Social Groups

Does Hagenbach Cathedral still exist? Are there records available to view for births, marriages, deaths, about 1827

Looking for the last name of Okuley (Okuly, Oculi) Michael Okuley born about 1827 and association with Valentine Okuley born 1823 and hoping to search records at Hagenbach Cathedral.

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  • Robert Seal_1
    Robert Seal_1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 25 edited September 25

    Hello @GallupECarolyn,

    There are a number of places called Hagenbach in Germany. Can you be more specific as to which one you are asking about?

    Also are you looking for Catholic or Protestant records?

    Thank you.

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  • GallupECarolyn
    GallupECarolyn ✭
    September 25

    Thank you for your response and my apologies for not being more specific. I am asking this question for a friend. She is looking for Catholic Church records in Hagenbach, Germersheim, Bavaria. She also has relatives who she believes came from the Munich area. She will be visiting the area soon. Also, are you aware of any online archives for these areas besides the records that Family Search has digitized and are available through the Family Search Library?

    Thank you so much.

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  • Robert Seal_1
    Robert Seal_1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 25 edited September 25

    Thank you for the additional information — this will help other volunteers address your friend's question.

    I checked the online site Matricula Online but this site does not include the Catholic records for Hagenbach, Germersheim.

    It appears some early Catholic records for Hagenbach are available on the subscription ($) site Archion here: https://www.archion.de/en/alle-archive/rheinland-pfalz/bistumsarchiv-speyer/hagenbach/st-michael

    The Landesarchiv Speyer (= State Archives Speyer) appears to also hold some Hagenbach Catholic church records.

    Here is the contact information for the Landesarchiv Speyer:

    State Archives Speyer
    Otto-Mayer-Str. 9
    67346 Speyer

    Telephone: 06232 9192-0
    E-mail: lasp-post@lav.rip.de

    You or your friend may want to send the archival staff an e-mail (in English) asking what Hagenbach (Germesheim) Catholic records the archive holds and if they know of any online sites where these records can be accessed.

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  • Teresa Jean Okuly
    Teresa Jean Okuly ✭
    September 27 edited September 27

    I am the person that they are trying to help. I have worked on this line forever it feels like.

    If you have any questions, please ask.

    I know that Michael was born in 1827, if we do a reverse calendar from his birth date it is 5/14/1827 he was married 4/22/1850, his marriage registration was on 4/11/1850 in Ohio, Cuyahoga county. The priest returned three marriage dates all on the same date. I am currently trying to get a hold of the Ohio Diocese to see what church he served at (taking a bit to hear back, as the father moved a lot).

    I have tried to find Michael when he left from over there, an arrived in the US. Haven't had much luck there.

    In Henry County Ohio, I have checked the Sacred Heart Catholic Church records. Michael is in this record with his family, no where does it state parents. Also across the street from this church is a cemetery. Michael is there with lots of Okuly's (all variants of spelling). People on Ancestry and (was) in FamilySearch they had Valentine Okuly as his parent. Also, have reached out to Sacred Heart three times now and no response.

    I did a DNA test a few years back with a 3rd generation (as we found relatives of Valentine), no match! Also, this Valentine in this cemetery is to young to be his father (sibling age).

    In this cemetery Valentines headstone is right in front of Michaels, also found a plat map, they lived four houses apart. I have done a spreadsheet with the oldest Okuly's in this cemetery and have found that Michael is the only one I can not find parents or siblings on any record. (I am currently working on Sacred Hearts records to see if Michael and his wife are God Parents to any of the other Okuly's).

    I was thinking Michael was adopted? As I can not believe they are not related to Valentinus Okuli (KN4W-KXB), as there are church records of his death in Hagenbach, Pfalz, Bavaria.

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK9Q-XF2

    Which might not help at all as he was Christened 10/19/1798 same place. They have children listed as being Christened the same place.

    I've been told you have to find where they arrived in the US before you can go to find where they originated. No luck! So I thought I can find his records in Germany as my sister will be visiting there soon.

    Thank you all for your help, any questions please feel free to contact me.

    Teresa Okuly

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