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Lewis Klapka
Lewis Klapka ✭✭
August 15, 2024 in Social Groups

PLease help with the translation of this marriage record. It is the last record on the left page of the image.

This is what I think I know about this record, The date is 7 Feb 1751, the village is Horka, the Groom is Mathias, I believe his surname is Stasna, the Bride is Magdalena, I do not know her maiden name.

Please provide surnames of the bride and groom and if available the their birth place and age at time of marriage.

This record can be found in the Zamrsk Archives in the parish of Chrast in the Chrudim district in the noz register 916 ,1744-1784, on page 14.

Thank You

Lewis Klapka

URL: https://aron.vychodoceskearchivy.cz/apu/971bbf29-aead-48a3-9d92-693cbf6c0f88/dao/971bbf29-aead-48a3-9d92-693cbf6c0f88/file/c8b16da6-f404-40d3-8bba-85032197929b

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  • Betseylee Browning
    Betseylee Browning ✭✭✭
    August 17, 2024

    Lfdnr

    3631

    Ortsname Aktuell

    Horka

    Ortsname Früher

    Horka

    Ortsname Deutsch

    Ortsname Ungarisch

    Ortsname Slowakisch

    Ortsname Ukrainisch

    Kronland

    Böhmen
    Pfarren in Tschechien (Geolocation)

    Bezirk

    Chrudim

    Pfarre(n)

    Name

    Matrikenbeginn

    zuständiges Archiv

    Zuständige Pfarre - Römisch Katholisch:

    Chrast

    1709/1709/1709

    Samrsk

    No ages given.

    These surnames are hard, especially the Grooms.; I do not see your spelling nor their given names. The first letter is tough to distinguish. I found another example of this letter in the same page 6 entries from the bottom.

    I have been working a couple of days on these names. The second surname could be Rozen. Have you seen the index for 1751 for marriages? I found an entry that fits but the spelling is different than what you came up with. Have you found a christening record for Mathias https://aron.vychodoceskearchivy.cz/apu/fea04d54-6d56-4fb7-b944-c72c71f2e21f/dao/fea04d54-6d56-4fb7-b944-c72c71f2e21f/file/cd7dc667-01b0-4185-8f76-12b152a1a9f9.

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  • Lewis Klapka
    Lewis Klapka ✭✭
    August 18, 2024

    No, I have not found a christening record for Mathias but I do have a birth record for his daughter Katerina. This birth record can be found in the Zamrsk Archives in the parish of Chrast register of births, book 916, page 105, record 12. The record is the last one on the right page. I had this record translated by a researcher from the Czech Republic a copy of this translation is attached. You will notice that the father's name has been translated as Matej (Mathias) Stisni/Stasny.

    Thank You Betseylee

    Birth Record:

    https://aron.vychodoceskearchivy.cz/apu/971bbf29-aead-48a3-9d92-693cbf6c0f88/dao/971bbf29-aead-48a3-9d92-693cbf6c0f88/file/a3fa5475-2271-4a9a-b950-8b147bc4a54a

    Translation: BIRTH
    CATHARINA STISNI / KATERINa SfasNA,
    State Archive in Zdmrsk
    Roman Catholic Parish in Chrast
    Birth Register, Book #916,page #105, record #12
    Date of birth: April 16,1759
    Date of baptism:April 16,17598
    Baptized in Chrast by Chmelidek
    Rel igion: Roman Catholic
    Name: Catharina / Kateiina
    Sex: female
    Bed: marital
    Place of birth: Horka
    Father:
    Matej Stisni/ St'asny from Horka
    Mother:
    Magdalena
    Godparents and witnesses:
    Kateiina Kuchyikova, wife of Vaclav Kuchyrika from Chrast
    Anna Capkova, wife of Jan Capek from Chrast
    Matej Chauer from Horka
    Midwife: not recorded
    Note: The child was baptized on April 16, 1759 in Chrast.
    7 Catharina = Kateiina. Stisni = St'asna.
    I It is not distinguished between the day ofbirth and day ofbaptism

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  • Betseylee Browning
    Betseylee Browning ✭✭✭
    August 21, 2024

    Do you need the links for the index?

    Index for marriage: https://aron.vychodoceskearchivy.cz/apu/fea04d54-6d56-4fb7-b944-c72c71f2e21f/dao/fea04d54-6d56-4fb7-b944-c72c71f2e21f/file/4770bc90-9ff1-499b-b930-318c689edf06

    Index for possible births: On the second one down under 1734 on the link I am posting is a possibility. The folio is 364.

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  • Betseylee Browning
    Betseylee Browning ✭✭✭
    August 21, 2024 edited August 21, 2024

    One of the tools we use is https://www.kdejsme.cz/prijmeni/Sfasna/hustota/It shows where names currently are found in Czechia. Stisni/ St'asny do not come up as valid. No valid entries for  Stisni. One valid entry for Stasny https://www.kdejsme.cz/prijmeni/Stasny/hustota/.

    Another site we use to determine surname: https://www.familyeducation.com/baby-names/surname/origin/czech?page=10

    Wikipedia shows Šťastný as a valid name. I and Y are interchangeable in the Czech language.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0%C5%A5astn%C3%BD

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  • Lewis Klapka
    Lewis Klapka ✭✭
    August 21, 2024

    I did see the index for 1751 marriages, that's how I found the marriage record.

    I don't think the 1734 birth index record is part of my research . Who did you think this record was referring to?

    Thank you for your help Betseylee.

    Lewis Klapka

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  • Betseylee Browning
    Betseylee Browning ✭✭✭
    August 22, 2024 edited August 22, 2024

    The baptism one is the wrong surname.

    Šťastný (pronounced [ˈʃcastniː]) is a Czech and Slovak surname which literally means "happy".[2] The feminine form of the surname is Šťastná.

    Spelling variants include Stiastny/Stiastna, Stiasny/Stiasna, Stiassny/Stiassna, etc

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