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Finding more on parents of Albert Louis Pak/Pakh

CLAIREMCCARTY
CLAIREMCCARTY ✭
July 8, 2024 edited July 8, 2024 in Social Groups

Anyone interested in helping me search for the parents of Albert Louis Paakh? (He spelled name Paakh once in U.S.)

Albert Louis Joseph Paakh/Pakh/Pak 30 Aug 1856 (born in Miskolc) - 8 March 1944 (died in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania). Father: Josef Pakh; Mother: Elizabeth Graf

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9398-NQKN-W?view=explore&groupId=M9D2-L5B

He was married to Ilona Konecsny (born in Kolsice, 1869-1932). Father: Ferencz KONECSNY, born in Studenitz, Moravia/Brno, Czechia; Mother Mária or Amalia KURT born in Tokaj (parents Mihaly Kurth and Eliz Kiss).

His parents were Joseph Pakh (trying to find out if this is the son of Mihaly Pakh?) and Elizabeth Graf. I think Albert's siblings were:

Rosalia Julia 1858
Gustav/Augustinus 1860
Vilhemina 1862
Joseph 1864
Joseph 1866

Any documentation on his parents? Joseph Pakh/Eliz Graf?

Many thanks.

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  • Christopher Kovach_1
    Christopher Kovach_1 ✭✭✭
    July 8, 2024 edited July 8, 2024

    According to his marriage record in St. Ann's parish in Miskolcz, Joseph Pak was born in Dobsina, Gömör around 1831:https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSV4-TRPQ?i=273&cat=39109

    I couldn't find his baptism in the Dobsina RC records:https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R77-Q72?i=553&cc=1554443&cat=738759

    The marriage record indicates that Elizabeth Graf was born in Lanycsok, Baranya around 1834. I found two Erzsebet Graffs in the Lanycsok RC records, one born in 1831 and one born in 1835:https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-XM9S-1S?i=200&cc=1743180&cat=424871

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  • Áine Ní Donnghaile
    Áine Ní Donnghaile ✭✭✭✭✭
    July 8, 2024

    Do you have this one, @CLAIREMCCARTY? https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc.gov/view/8392254

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  • CLAIREMCCARTY
    CLAIREMCCARTY ✭
    July 8, 2024

    Aine: I do, thanks. I know most everything about Albert Louis Paakh once he was in Philadelphia. It's the connection to Hungary where I draw a blank. claire

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  • CLAIREMCCARTY
    CLAIREMCCARTY ✭
    July 9, 2024

    Christopher: Thanks so much. Can you make out the exact date of the marriage? August ??

    Joseph, 25 years old; Elizabeth 22?

    It's so exciting to see this.

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  • CLAIREMCCARTY
    CLAIREMCCARTY ✭
    July 9, 2024 edited July 9, 2024

    Can someone interpret the info on Elizabeth Graf, 26 June, for me? I think this would be the correct record.

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-XM9S-YM?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AXCKY-ZXB&action=view

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  • Christopher Kovach_1
    Christopher Kovach_1 ✭✭✭
    July 9, 2024 edited July 9, 2024

    The marriage date is 4 Aug 1856. Joseph is age 25, Elizabeth 22.

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  • Christopher Kovach_1
    Christopher Kovach_1 ✭✭✭
    July 9, 2024

    Her parents are Hilarius Graff and Erzebet Muntenpirger. The date is 26 Jun 1835.

    The only other record for these parents that I could find gives mother's name as Untenperger.https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-XM93-SC?cc=1743180

    The marriage record and Elizabeth Graff's baptism are in the Mindszent parish records, NOT St. Anna's parish.

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  • CLAIREMCCARTY
    CLAIREMCCARTY ✭
    July 9, 2024

    Thanks again. So that last link would be Elizabeth's sister, Margith?

    So Joseph Pak and Eliz Graf married 4 Aug 1856. My great grandfather Albert Pak was born 30 Aug 1856. So I guess it's possible they married right before he was born?

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  • CLAIREMCCARTY
    CLAIREMCCARTY ✭
    July 9, 2024

    Trying to determine if my Joseph Pakh is the son of Mihaly Pakh.

    Mihaly was born 18 Oct 1795 in Dobsina, was a well known Protestant Minister (but my Joseph was Catholic), had a son Joseph (wondering if this is mine?) who married an Eliz Graf…. and a famous son named Dr. Albert Fredericus Pakh.

    Do you think they are of the same family?

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  • Christopher Kovach_1
    Christopher Kovach_1 ✭✭✭
    July 9, 2024

    Here's a family tree; you could try contacting the author:https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/GXHW-MGJ

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    July 10, 2024

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9398-NQKN-W
    4552321 145/671 (Miskolc RC)
    1856
    111. born 30 August, baptized 1 Septemb.
    Child: Albert Ludovicus Josephus, male, legitimate
    Parents: Josephus Pák, RC, Elisabetha Graf, RC, cabinetmaker
    Residence: Miskolcz house-number 1862
    Godparents: Albert Szontag, Julianna Dubraviczky

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSV4-TRPQ?cat=39109
    8117112 274/528 (Miskolc RC)
    1856
    35. 4 August.
    Groom: Josephus Pak, cabinetmaker, birthplace Dobsina, Gömör county, residence Miskolcz, RC, age 25 years, single.
    Bride: Elisabetha Graf, maiden, birthplace Lancsok, Baranya county, residence Miskolcz, RC, age 22 years, single.
    Witnesses Carolus Masd??, Paulus Rajczi(?), cabinetmaker.
    3 announcements.

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-XM9S-YM
    4658554 220/702 (Lancsuk/Lánycsók RC)
    1835 26th (June) 10 a.m.
    Elisabetha
    Parents: Hilarius Graff Catholic, Erzsébeth Muntenperger, Roman Catholic
    Godparents: Vendelin Linder farmer and his wife Margith Honek

    Possibly Joseph's baptism (Dobsina Lutheran):
    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GR77-8BH?i=423
    1830
    125. Josephus
    Parents: Josephus Pack and Rosina Schablik
    Godparents: Joannes Breyer and Amalia Szoyka
    4 Nov.

    I don't think the 1795 Michael Pack is the right family; his son Joseph was baptized in Rozsnyó three years before "your" Joseph's approximate birthdate in Dobsina.

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  • CLAIREMCCARTY
    CLAIREMCCARTY ✭
    July 10, 2024

    Thank you all!

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  • CLAIREMCCARTY
    CLAIREMCCARTY ✭
    January 15

    Hi everyone: How likely would it be that Joseph Pak/Pack/Pakh would be born Lutheran but married as Catholic?

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  • CLAIREMCCARTY
    CLAIREMCCARTY ✭
    January 15

    Any record of his death? I know he died before 1904 but don't have a specific date or any knowledge of when his death occurred.

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