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susan herceg
susan herceg ✭
June 3, 2024 in Social Groups

"Nyőgér, Vas, Hungary Records," images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939F-MC9D-46 : June 3, 2024), image 139 of 177; Magyar Országos Levéltár.

Can anyone translate the cause of death for the last entry—Joszef Herczeg. Starts with an E….

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 3, 2024

    Elmezavar: "mind disturbance" — derangement, insanity, psychosis, dementia.

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  • susan herceg
    susan herceg ✭
    June 4, 2024

    Thank you. Sad news. He was 52.

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 4, 2024

    Yeah, I noticed that, as that's exactly my current age. :-/

    A cause of death of mental illness or dementia always feels like a euphemism, though; I just never know what for.

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  • susan herceg
    susan herceg ✭
    June 4, 2024

    I agree. It could have been a brain tumor causing crazy behavior. His son, Josef, born in 1867, committed suicide at age 60 in the US or he was drunk when he laid on RR tracks.

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  • susan herceg
    susan herceg ✭
    June 11, 2024

    Translation help! the entry of Jozsef Herczeg

    "Hungary, Catholic Church Records, 1636-1895", , FamilySearch(https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2S1Q-9VY : Sat Mar 09 15:23:35 UTC 2024), Entry for Herczeg Jozsef and Herczeg Jozsef, 1892.

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 11, 2024

    1892
    March
    Number 17. Born 15, baptized 15.
    Child: József, male, legitimate.
    Parents: József Herczeg day-laborer, Rozi Szummer, R.Catholics.
    Residence: Bejcz, Egervölgye, Bejcz. [From what I can tell, they filled in this column with the father's birthplace, the mother's birthplace, and their current residence.]
    Godparents: Antal Sőre farmer, Anna Takács.
    Officiant: Kovács, parson.

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  • susan herceg
    susan herceg ✭
    June 12, 2024

    Thank you. I have been searching for Rozi’s birth place

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  • susan herceg
    susan herceg ✭
    June 14, 2024

    Can you translate this me?

    "Hungary Civil Registration, 1895-1980", , FamilySearch(https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6JBS-1HMC : Fri Mar 08 20:56:07 UTC 2024), Entry for Herczeg Veronika and Herczeg József, 14 May 1900.

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 14, 2024

    Number 70. Dated in Vármellék, 14 May 1900.
    Informant: the below-named father, who verified his identity with a community certificate.
    Father: József Herczeg, Roman Catholic, day-laborer, residence and birthplace Beicz, age 32 years.
    Mother: Mrs. József Herczeg born Rozália Szummer, Roman Catholic, residence Beicz, birthplace Egervölgye, age 29 years.
    Birth: Beicz, 13 May 1900, 9 a.m.
    Child: girl, Roman Catholic, Veronika.

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  • susan herceg
    susan herceg ✭
    June 14, 2024

    Hello, again! I need translation help.

    "Vas, Hungary Records," images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-KGSJ-X6 : June 14, 2024), image 91 of 184; Magyar Országos Levéltár. It is the entry of Rozalia on October 1, 1870. I believe this is the person I have searched for. Although, her headstone in MI says she was born 10/1/1871. Her children may have thought her birth year was 1871!

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 14, 2024

    1870
    48. October 1, 1.
    Rozália, female, legitimate.
    István Szammer, Cath. farmer, Éva Villadics, Cath.
    Egervölgye No. 77.
    Takács János, Cath. farm., Rozália Majsa, Cath.
    immunized

    Marriage:

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-KGSF-96
    4675729 342/519

    Number 6. 18 May 1891.
    Groom and bride: József Herczeg, day-laborer, Szummer Rozália.
    Place of origin and residence: Bejcz, Egervölgye / Bejcz
    Religion: RC
    Age: 24, 21
    Status: single, single
    Witnesses: József Csorba, János Pintér, RC farm.
    Observations (Parents): József Herczeg, Juli Zsoldos, István Szummer, Erzsébet Velladics, RC.

    Rozália's siblings:
    Anna https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VZL2-NK4
    Péter https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VZL2-SCJ
    Veronica Jozefa https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VZL2-3HN

    The index does not have an István married to an Erzsébet with anything remotely like the right surnames, so she was clearly Éva and the marriage entry simply got it wrong.

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  • susan herceg
    susan herceg ✭
    June 20, 2024

    Thank you so much. I found the baptismal record by going thru images from the town. but you found her marriage! I thought Anna was a sibling too!

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  • susan herceg
    susan herceg ✭
    June 20, 2024

    Hi Julia—translation help, please



    "Hungary Civil Registration, 1895-1980", , FamilySearch(https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6VBM-H6D7 : Fri Mar 08 12:52:06 UTC 2024), Entry for Szúmmer Anna and Szummer István, 17 Sep 1903.

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 20, 2024

    Number 37. Dated in Kám, 17 September 1903.
    Informant: Antal Kovács, agricultural day-laborer, residence Egervölgy, whom the below-written registrar knows personally.
    Deceased: Anna Szúmmer married name Mrs. Antal Kovács, Roman Catholic, homemaker, residence and birthplace Egervölgy, age 30 years.
    Spouse: Antal Kovács
    Father: the late István Szummer smallholder Egervölgy
    Mother: widow of the late István Szummer born Éva Velladics, homemaker, Egervölgy
    Death: Egervölgy, 17 September 1903, 3 a.m.
    Cause: childbed
    Remark: informant is the deceased's husband.

    The baby also died.

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRK1-48J?i=494
    HCR - Vas - Kám - Births 1900-1906 - 495/900
    Number 83. Dated in Kám, 24 August 1903.
    Informant: Teréz Baldauf, agricultural day-laborer woman, Egervölgy, whom the below-written assistant registrar knows personally.
    Father: Antal Kovács, Roman Catholic, agricultural day-laborer, residence Egervölgy, birthplace Ujlak, age 42 years.
    Mother: Mrs. Antal Kovács born Anna Szommer, Roman Catholic, homemaker, residence and birthplace Egervölgy, age 30 years.
    Birth: Egervölgy, 20 August 1903, 5 p.m.
    Child: girl, Roman Catholic, Erzsébet.
    Remark: informant -- who is also a district-physician-instructed midwife -- helped out at the birth, and was entrusted with reporting it by the newborn's mother.
    Read forth, approved, and signed, or supplied with the mark of the illiterate informant.
    [Margin:] Death event is entered in this same registration district's death register for the year 1903 under number 34.

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RKY-DD?i=714
    HCR - Vas - Kám - Deaths 1895-1904 - 715/767
    Number 34. Dated in Kám, 4 September 1903.
    Informant: widow Mrs. István Szommer born Éva Velladics, agricultural day-laborer-woman, residence Egervölgy, whom the below-written registrar knows personally.
    Deceased: Erzsébet Kovács, Roman Catholic, residence and birthplace Egervölgy, age 14 days.
    Father: Antal Kovács agricultural day-laborer Egervölgy.
    Mother: Mrs. Antal Kovács born Anna Szommer homemaker Egervölgy.
    Death: Egervölgy, 3 September 1903, 9 p.m.
    Cause: infantile phthysis [=tuberculosis, usually]
    Remark: Informant is the deceased's grandmother who bears direct knowledge of the death. The pre-printed word "years" has been deleted.
    Read forth, approved, and signed, or supplied with the mark of the illiterate informant.

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  • susan herceg
    susan herceg ✭
    June 27, 2024

    Translation help!

    "Demecser, Szabolcs, Hungary Records," images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-MPWG-8 : June 27, 2024), image 30 of 67; Magyarország. Országos Levéltár. Number 19 Samuel

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 28, 2024

    Number 19. Born 9, baptized 19 May 1877.
    Sámuel, male, legitimate.
    Parents: Gyula Szegedi, Ref., switch-guard at the railroad; Terézia Vég, Ref.
    Residence: Demecser guardhouse number 351.
    Godparents: Ferdinánd Kriston farmer in Kék, Lilla Róth, Rom.Cath., wife of József Steiger stationmaster.
    Officiant: Bálint Várady local ref. minister.

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