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Some phrases in a 1673 Alsace marriage record

Tom Randolph
Tom Randolph ✭✭
June 3 in Social Groups

First time I have transcribed a record from Niederhausbergen, Alsace and it has some bolded words I couldn't make out. From: https://archives.bas-rhin.fr/detail-document/ETAT-CIVIL-C323-P2-R199586#visio/page:ETAT-CIVIL-C323-P2-R199586-2152752 Not critical for vital information, but I'm curious about the formulas used. Any suggestions/corrections welcome!

Transcription

:A. 1673. [preceding page]

:Den 20 Julÿ sind nach ordentlicher außruffung auff Oberkeitlichs wissen, willen u. gutheißen ehelich Copulirt worden Hanß Jacob Becker, Nicolaus Beckers deß Soldat Zu St?burg ehelicher Sohn (Er Religion nach ein Pontificig, gal al? Vor der HochZeit ?sprochen beÿ des wir, als dem pfarrar U. auch dem Hochgerhatz hl.en Amptmann dem hlen V?ÿer, zu unserer Evangelisch lehre u. Religion mit nächstem zu? geben u. dieselbige anzunehmen ) mit Jgfr Catharina Heimbürgerin, Diebolt Heimbürgers oder Gally Diebolts bürgers zu Lampertheim erzeugte Tochter. Gott der geber alles get?, ?loÿ Hr Jhnen Er gottlich genad, hülff u. seeg, den sie geistlich mit einand leben mögen. Dem HochZeiter aber wolle Gott beÿ sie guten Vorspruch erhalten, u. Er gemüth u. v also regieren Er den selbigen ins weart mäge setzen.

Translation

:Year 1673 [preceding page]

:On the 20th of July, after an orderly announcement with the knowledge, will and approval of the High Court, Hanß Jacob Becker, legitimate son of Nicolaus Becker the soldier from Strasburg, was married (Religion according to a Pontificat ?? before the marriage celebrated with us as the parish priest and also the honorable officers of the high court, the honorable ?? to our Protestant doctrine and religion with the next ? given and the same accepted) with maiden Catharina Heimbürger, daughter begot by Diebolt Heimbürger or Gally Diebolt, Citizen in Lampertheim. God the giver of all things, may He give them God’s grace, help and blessing so that they may live spiritually with one another. But may God keep them in good favor, and may He govern their minds and hearts so that He may put them in the right place.

:Note: Marriage date given as 20 Jul 1673 according to the Julian calendar, which would be 30 Jul 1673 in the Gregorian calendar (according to https://stevemorse.org/jcal/julian.html), which was a Sunday.

:Note: Oberkeitlich = obrigkeitlich, authorities (https://woerterbuchnetz.de/?sigle=DWB&lemid=O00226)

Source: Archives d’Alsace; Archives Départementales du Bas-Rhin; Niederhausbergen - Paroisse protestante (Avant 1793) - Registre de baptêmes mariages sépultures 1603-1729 - 3 E 326/1; https://archives.bas-rhin.fr/detail-document/ETAT-CIVIL-C323-P2-R199586#visio/page:ETAT-CIVIL-C323-P2-R199586-2152752

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  • Ulrich Neitzel
    Ulrich Neitzel ✭✭✭✭✭
    June 4 edited June 4 Answer ✓

    @Tom Randolph

    Here is my transcription of the sentence in brackets:

    (sr [seiner?] Religion nach ein Pontificius, hat aber Vor der HochZeit versprochen beÿdes mir, als dem Pfarrer U. auch dem hochgeehrten Hrn [Herren] Amptmann, dem Hrn Wayer?, zu unserer Evangelisch lehre u. Religion mit nächstem zu? geben u. dieselbige anzunehmen ) 

    Translation:

    (according to his religion a "papal" [i.e. catholic], but he has promised both to me the pastor as well as to the honorable bailiff Mr. Wayer? before the marriage that he will __ to our Protestant doctrine and religion and accept it).

    The word between nächstem and geben is in the fold and impossible to read fully.

    The last sentences are:

    Gott der geber alles Guts verleihe Ihnen se [seine] göttlich genad, hülff u. seeg, daß sie geistlich mit einand leben mögen. Dem HochZeiter aber wolle Gott beÿ sm [seinem] guten Verspruch erhalten, u. sn [sein] gemüth u. ♥ [Herz] also regieren, [daß] Er d[en]selbigen ins werk möge setzen.

    Translation:

    God the giver of all things, may He give them God’s grace, help and blessing so that they may live spiritually with one another. But may God keep the groom with his good promise, and may He govern his mind and heart so that he may bring it into effect.

    Note that there are apparently some scribal shortcuts, one for the prefix ver- (versprochen, verleihe) and another for sein- (seiner, seine).

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  • Tom Randolph
    Tom Randolph ✭✭
    June 4

    @Ulrich Neitzel , that's fantastic, thank you! I had totally missed the underlying issue of his religion.

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