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Mark83614
Mark83614 ✭
April 2 edited April 2 in Social Groups

Hi everybody!

I need help translating my great-grandparents marriage allegati, if you don't mind, please.

Giovanni Maritno Gianotti and Maria Teresa Reinerio.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-L1LR-981P?i=47

And here's the Atti Di Matrimonio which might be part of the allegati, sorry I get a little confused on these.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-81GT-8RL?fbclid=IwAR0sfy9PKkVtwn4UsVr5fAhc79cXE0cvUVBsC-Ac-dD4dgx__hm6J8mrNmQ&i=373

Thanks for all of your help!

Sincerely,

Mark Lodi

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  • Cousin Vinny
    Cousin Vinny ✭✭✭✭
    April 2

    Image 49 - birth / baptism of groom, original here, much easier to read: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS8K-JSVW-4?i=2339&cat=442702

    Born 23 Mar 1848, baptized 24 Mar. Father Gioanni Battista Gianotti, mother Maria Domenica Mezzanatto (daughter of deceased Gioanni Battista)

    Image 50 - birth/baptism of bride, original at https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS8K-NW1J-X?i=630&cat=442702

    Born 6 Feb 1860, baptized 7 Feb. Father Giacomo Reinerio (son of deceased Gio. Domenico and of deceased Maria Teresa Giroldo), mother Maria Anna Villone Corio (daughter of deceased Gio. Domenico and of deceased Margarita Tarro Ricca Ozellno)

    Image 51 - death of bride's father, original at https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSM8-74FC-M?i=2611&cat=442702

    Died 8 Mar 1865, age 54

    Images 52/53 are extracts of the publications posted.

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  • Mark83614
    Mark83614 ✭
    April 2

    Wow, that's awesome, Vinny! Thank you very much! That brings me back 2 more generations.

    Do you know if it mentions the communes that my great grandparents and their parents were born in?

    Thanks again!

    Mark

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  • Cousin Vinny
    Cousin Vinny ✭✭✭✭
    April 2

    Both spouses were born in Locana. FamilySearch has the church records of Locana back to the 1600s. It's a pretty safe bet they didn't move around, so you can trace back and find the marriage record of each set of parents, then their baptism records, then the marriage records of their parents, etc.

    https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/442702?availability=Family%20History%20Library

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  • Mark83614
    Mark83614 ✭
    April 3

    Thanks again, Vinny, I really appreciate it!

    I think that I might be a little confused by my grandmother's parents, here's what you wrote: "Born 6 Feb 1860, baptized 7 Feb. Father Giacomo Reinerio (son of
    deceased Gio. Domenico and of deceased Maria Teresa Giroldo), mother
    Maria Anna Villone Corio (daughter of deceased Gio. Domenico and of
    deceased Margarita Tarro Ricca Ozellno)."

    Just to verify that my grandmother's father's name was: Giacomo Reinerio, (which I got) and then his father's name was Gio Reinerio (Do you know if Gio is short for something?)

    Then, you have my grandmother's mother's name as: Maria Anna Villone Corio (does she have 2 last names? I thought the Villone was a sur name.) and then you have her father's name as: Gio. Domenico Corio? So both of my grandmother's grandfather's were named: Gio. Domenico?

    Also, are you able to verify the date that they were married on in 1875 for me please?

    Sorry for all of the questions but I really appreciate all of your help!

    Ciao

    Mark

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  • Cousin Vinny
    Cousin Vinny ✭✭✭✭
    April 3

    The bride's full baptismal name was Maria Maddalena Teresa. Gio is usually short for Giovanni. And yes, her mother has a compound surname (Vittone Corio - I misread it earlier as Villone), so her maternal grandfather was Gio. Domenico Vittone Corio. Both of her grandfathers had the given names Gio. Domenico.

    I actually found the Reinerio / Vittone Corio marriage in 1857. It would appear from this record that Maria Anna / Marianna's father was Giacomo Domenico, and her mother had a triple surname (written here as Tarro Ricca Ozzellino). Giacomo Reinerio was age 45 and Maria Anna was age 34. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS8K-J35R-P?i=1296&cat=442702

    I found what appears to be Maria Anna's baptism (born 1 Apr 1822, with the baptismal name Maria Clara Cristina) and here she just has the surname Vittone, so perhaps the Corio was a soprannome added later to distinguish her family from other Vittone families in town. But her mother still has the triple surname (spelled here as Taro Ricca Osellino). Her father is Giacomo Domenico son of deceased Vincenzo, and mother is Maria daughter of living Giacomo. It's #46 on bottom left: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS8K-JSVY-9?i=1018&cat=442702

    The civil marriage of your great-grandparents took place on 27 Feb 1875. Civil and religious marriages were separate in this era, so there was a separate church marriage, but it also took place on 27 Feb: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS8K-J38Y-7?i=1870&cat=442702

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  • Mark83614
    Mark83614 ✭
    April 5

    Wow, Vinny, that's amazing work! I really appreciate all of the work that you put into this research! Far and above what I had asked for!

    Thanks again!

    BTW, sorry for the duplicate posts, I'm trying to get used to this software.

    Mark

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