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devenport stephen b
devenport stephen b ✭
March 20, 2024 edited March 20, 2024 in Social Groups

Can anyone make sense of these 2 sections? I'm pretty sure this famiy group connects to my line but I'm having a hard time following where they're going and have been. something about "below Foxtorp in kyrkebo's village and skofte's..."

And "Lytt in hogrenknact ... in from ..."

Thanks!


https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0053239_00045#?c=&m=&s=&cv=44&xywh=2699%2C4591%2C1319%2C657

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  • Ellen Zaifnejad
    Ellen Zaifnejad ✭✭
    March 27, 2024

    Hello,

    In the Inflyttad column, where they came from, it says, "under Tofvatorp i Kyrketorp socken och sköfdes Gåld / Gäld." So Tovatorp is a village in Kyrketorp parish. I admit I don´t know what the last bit is.

    There are a couple ways to find Tovatorp

    First -- Use the wiki parish pages. https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Skaraborg_County,_Sweden_Genealogy and look in the list of parishes for a Kyrketorp parish. Since there are none, try Norra, Södra, Västra, and Östra Kyrketorp. Yep, there´s a Norra Kyrketorp and a Södra Kyrketorp. From there, try each to see if one has a village or farm named Tovatorp. Norra Kyrketorp has it.


    The other way is use a gazetteer

    https://ortnamnsregistret.isof.se/place-names?county-id=15&page-number=1&page-size=20&place-name=tovatorp&place-name-search-type=Contains&place-name-sort-order=ascending&show-extended-place-name-filter=true

    Here the list of hits shows a Tovatorp in several different socken, and Norra Kyrketorp socken is in the list.


    So, Tovatorp farm or village in Norra Kyrketorp parish, Skaraborgs län is where they came from in 1785.

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  • Ellen Zaifnejad
    Ellen Zaifnejad ✭✭
    March 27, 2024

    In the Anmärkingar column, comments, I´m not getting very far.

    The tools I usually use for figuring out the words are the Swedish Historical Dictionary Database

    https://swedishgenealogyguide.com/dictionaries/swedish-historical-dictionary-database-shdd

    and Google Translate.

    This is what I´ve got so far:

    Lytt i högelen det far fvår föratt ta_ och höra

    Listen in the high-heel it comes from to take and hear

    🤣 So, a long way to go there

    höger – on the right, toward the right. knä - knee. höra - hear / be told / get / belong

    It is often a comment about their character or standing in the church. It could possibly be a comment about health.

    Sorry I can´t help more with that -- the true experts are needed here.

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  • Ulrich Neitzel
    Ulrich Neitzel ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 28, 2024

    I think the last words in the comment column could be: har svår[t] för att ta[la?] och höra, which would mean "has difficulty talking and hearing", i.e. is (almost) deaf-mute.

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