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Wieringen Marriage

A van Helsdingen
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April 3, 2020 edited April 8, 2020 in Social Groups
Wieringen Marriage

My ancestors Frans Pot(t) and Bregje Gerrits Spreeuw married on 24 November 1754 in Wieringen, in the Catholic Church.

 

Frans is believed to have come from Germany, while Bregje is probably from Texel. Of note is that Frans' daughter Trijntje (my ancestor) married a half-German from Texel.

 

However the Catholic marriage record is typically unhelpful, giving only their names. I have searched without success in Dutch Reformed/Gaarders registers in both Wieringen and Texel. A "second pair of eyes" and advice on records that may give Frans' place of origin would be much appreciated.

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  • Adrien Kintziger
    Adrien Kintziger ✭✭✭
    April 3, 2020

    I used Only Frans Pot as a surname in archieven.nl,to find there is a cluster of them in Borculo.That is only about 4 km from the German border.Their names will unfold in a drop down box if you click,and sometimes showing their family and some scans. Maybe you could find some clues?

     

    https://www.archieven.nl/nl/zoeken?mivast=0&mizig=118&miadt=26&milang=nl&misort=last_mod%7Cdesc&miview=tbl&mizk_alle=frans%20pot

     

    After combing tru it , we will search a bit further.

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  • mieke hawner1
    mieke hawner1 ✭✭
    April 3, 2020

    According to Gerard Koppen on Geni

    Frans Henrich Pott was born about August 2, 1933 in

    Steinhagen, Detmold, NRW, Germany

    https://www.geni.com/people/Frans-Henrich-Pot/6000000053478863883#

     

    The following baptism record was found on ancestry.com

    Frans Henrich Pott

    Name: Frans Henrich Pott

    Gender: Male

    Baptism Date: 2 Aug 1733

    Baptism Place: Steinhagen, Westfalen, Preußen, Germany

    Residence Place: Steinhagen, Westfalen, Preußen, Germany

    Father: Peter Pott Mother: [No Name]

    FHL Film Number: 473591

    Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898

     

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  • A van Helsdingen
    A van Helsdingen ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 3, 2020

    I'm aware of the IGI-era record for a Frans Pott from Steinhagen. There is no evidence to link that particular Frans Pott to Frans Pot in Wieringen, despite it being taken as a fact by several online trees.

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  • Adrien Kintziger
    Adrien Kintziger ✭✭✭
    April 7, 2020

    Could this Pot (Frans Janszoon Pot) be of any interest to you, given that the location is

    Wieringen , and the year is somehow in the bracket,or is this something you have already filtered yourself?

    https://www.openarch.nl/raa:a426a706-a920-bdeb-40e6-d975068baf33

    Left corner below.

     

    I had no luck at all with the Pot's from what was it, Borculo?,i did not find anything

    of intrest.

    Adrie

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  • A van Helsdingen
    A van Helsdingen ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 7, 2020

    Thank you for looking.

     

    That notarial record is from 1877, so the people mentioned will be descendants of Frans Pot.

     

    Unfortunately I think this brick wall is not ever going to be resolved. With no record mentioning his origin and no other people in Wieringen before him with the surname Pot, we simply cannot determine where he came from.

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  • Adrien Kintziger
    Adrien Kintziger ✭✭✭
    April 8, 2020

    One of the best tools to work with , is persistency.I have been searching one of my ancestors for 38 years,and then found him. But i did some searching in other engine's and other trees to find only a very lean brew,almost no work is done-

    and many material is machine-genereted by software.

    I do not fully agree that there were no other Pot's in Wieringen before Frans,we do not have enough material to go by or to compare.If we are working from one church book only , or 2 mentionings,...we are in a barren desert.

    It is possible that he is from elsewhere, but why would we assume that,?, do we

    have a clue to do that?

    Given the fact that Belgium is a split-off from Nederland,we have an awfull lot of

    Pot's in the registers, so many of them have Dutch ancestry.

    Adrie

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