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Translation request first names and notes - please

cherryllmullen
cherryllmullen ✭
December 28, 2023 edited December 28, 2023 in Social Groups


Please help with notes and some of names - I do know that Matej (44) and Ursula Czerny (47) were married. Their son, Matej Czerny (24) married Marianna (20), which is probably why his name was struck through and he listed on the side with his wife. Haven't been able to locate a marriage record for Matej and Marianna in 1783-1785 in Kojokovice, hoping the notes might help locate.

Seignororial register Trebon Estate Kojakowitz 1785

Notes on side???Jakob Czerny, nen???? 44 Nen? Matej Czerny 24

Matej Czerny Weib (wife) Mariana 20

W: (weib-wife) Ursula 47

K. (children) Matej 24, Czerny Anna 16 Veith/Veit??? 17, Ewa ?? or Eva 7 and notes by Anna and Veith/Veith??


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https://digi.ceskearchivy.cz/53838/37/4486/4203/60/0

Thank you.

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  • JanTosovsky
    JanTosovsky ✭✭✭
    December 31, 2023

    Hard to tell. Matej (44) could die. Regardless of the reason, his son took over his head role.

    All notes are hard to read to me as they are in German. Right of Weith 17, I can only read Pawelletz (Pavelec) but the context is unclear.

    You probably tried ... I would scan marriage records in a broader period, even after the first child's birth. You can also try adjacent parishes.

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  • Betseylee Browning
    Betseylee Browning ✭✭✭
    December 31, 2023 edited December 31, 2023

    Thanks for helping Jan. I am under the weather and it will take a while to recover. This map from the 19th century might help you with some place names. I don't understand the note on the left, but the end of it states "Kow_? unter (under) the ____ to Leshnicz" which could be this place:

    Líšnice (Hluboká nad Vltavou, České Budějovice, Česko)

    name form: úřednílanguage: čeština

    Brief characteristic  část obce Hluboká nad Vltavou v okrese České Budějovice 

    Variant name  Leštnice

    language: čeština

    Variant name  Lischnitz

    language: němčina

    Variant name  Lišnice

    language: čeština

    Variant name  Líštnice

    language: čeština

    https://en.mapy.cz/zakladni?q=Hlubok%C3%A1%20nad%20Vltavou&source=muni&id=559&ds=2&x=14.4848319&y=49.0815863&z=11

    Betseylee

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  • cherryllmullen
    cherryllmullen ✭
    January 3, 2024

    Thank you for looking at it. I couldn't tell even what language the notes were in.

    Best wishes for a Happy New Year.

    Cherryll

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