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cherryllmullen
cherryllmullen ✭
October 17, 2023 edited October 17, 2023 in Social Groups

Please help translate, names & interpretation - in 1835 it looks like Lorenz Czerny died and in 1836 the register starts with his widow-not sure of her name.

1835 Seignorial register,Trebon estate, Kojakovice (village) https://digi.ceskearchivy.cz/53895/252/2045/3652/46/0

no. 37 Lorenz Czerny age 43 (name with line and +)does this mean he died

Wieb -wife? Ma???age37, kind(child/children) Weit?19, Marianna 16, Kaspar12, Johan?? 9 Matej?6, Katerina3, wentzel?2

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in 1836 register, the entry was: https://digi.ceskearchivy.cz/53896/256

no. 37 N. T.? Lorenz Czerny wildwn? widow?? Ma??? age 38

and children Weit?20, Marianna, 17, Kaspar 13, Johan??10, Matej?4 Wentzel? 3

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Thank you

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  • Betseylee Browning
    Betseylee Browning ✭✭✭
    October 19, 2023

    I hope this helps:

    1835

    Lorenz Czerney crossed out at a later time to indicate deceased

    weib= womann Margaretha,

    Kind=child Weith

    Marianna

    Kaspar

    Johann

    Mathias

    Barbara

    Wenzl


    1836

    N D? Don't know, Lorenz Czerney Wittwe=widow

    same names as printed above

    Here is a site for abbreviations: https://script.byu.edu/german-handwriting/tools/symbols-and-abbreviations

    Genealogical symbols and signs https://wiki-genealogy-net.translate.goog/Genealogische_Symbole_und_Zeichen?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US


    Betseylee Browning

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  • cherryllmullen
    cherryllmullen ✭
    October 25, 2023

    Thank you so much.

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  • Suzi_Trotter
    Suzi_Trotter ✭
    November 7, 2023

    Weib also means wife.

    Kind means child; on this document, it seems to indicate a list of children.

    I think that it says Veith rather than Weith--it doesn't match the W in Weib or Witwe. It is probably standardized as Veit or Vietel (a male name with the English equivalent of Guy or Vital; see https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Given_Name_Equivalents_in_the_Austro-Hungarian_Empire)

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  • Betseylee Browning
    Betseylee Browning ✭✭✭
    November 9, 2023

    You are welcome. I hope it helps.

    Betseylee Browning

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  • Betseylee Browning
    Betseylee Browning ✭✭✭
    November 9, 2023

    Thanks Suzi_Trotter for adding more info.

    Betseylee

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