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G Haux
G Haux ✭✭
July 27, 2023 in Social Groups

Anna Stina was born 12 April 1789.

https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0006816_00149

I believe this is her death record but making sure I am on the correct path. 27 July 1789

https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0006816_00197

The family did living in Oxhagen and then moved to Getbo Soldatstugan but she doesn't show up on the clerical records.

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  • Ulrich Neitzel
    Ulrich Neitzel ✭✭✭✭✭
    July 28, 2023

    @Haux

    Transcription of the death record:

    [died:] 27 [July] [buried] 2. Augusti flickbarnet Anna Stina Jonsdtr fr: Getbo Soldathåll okänd s: 15. weckor

    Translation:

    died 27 July, buried 2 Augusti: little girl Anna Stina Jonsdotter from Getbo Soldathåll unknown illness age15 weeks

    Comment: Soldathåll is an organizational term for the military, not just a house or cottage.

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  • Niels Just Rasmussen
    Niels Just Rasmussen ✭✭✭
    July 28, 2023

    The Jonas Jonsson, born 1755 could very well be this soldier called Jonas Grip [Grip is an army name] from "centrale soldatregistret" who join Södermanlands regemente, Vingåkers kompani in 1789. It fits with a movement from Oxhagen to Getbo (though this says Getboda).


    GRIP Jonas

    Släktnamn: -

    Född: 1755

    Död: -

    Antagen: 1789

    Avsked: -

    Aktnummer: SR-00-0284-1789

    Regemente: Södermanlands regemente

    Rote: Getboda

    Kompani: VINGÅKERS

    Socken: JULITA

    Torpnummer: SR-00-0284

    Source: https://soldat.elektronikhuset.it/soldatregister/dbrecord.sv.aspx?id=286798


    Generalmönsterrullor, Arkiv med löpande volymnumrering, SE/KrA/0023/0/147 (1789):

    Generalmunsterrulla 14. Oktober 1789.

    Södermanlands regemente.

    Premier Majors Compagnie [what will apparently later be Vingåkers Kompani.]

    The "6. Corporalskapet."

    Number 284.

    Geteboda.

    Soldat Anders Grip. Död 18. Mars 1789.

    [New Soldier] Joh. Grip. 34 years old. [born 1755]

    Ankom från Sverige [so the company is not in Sweden at this time!]

    ?och? 18. Juli ?komm? [arrived to the company at that date?]

    Till Sveaborg. [= Suomenlinna] in Finland.

    Source (bild 518): https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0028121_00518#?c=&m=&s=&cv=517&xywh=-368%2C796%2C6715%2C3620


    Generalmönsterrullor, Arkiv med löpande volymnumrering, SE/KrA/0023/0/148 (1793):

    Generalmönsterrulla 4. December 1793.

    Södermanlands regemente.

    Premier Majors Compagnie.

    The "6. Corporalskapet".

    Number 284.

    Geteboda.

    Anders Grip. Död 27. martii 1791. [must be the death of Jons Jonsson (Grip), as Anders died in 1789]

    [New Soldier] Olaf Hiller from 29. December 1792.

    Source (bild 119): https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/A0028122_00119#?c=&m=&s=&cv=118&xywh=-522%2C646%2C5672%2C3057


    Julita kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/10497/A I/1 a (1783-1794) [only men]:

    Getbo Soldat stuga.

    Anders Grip [the soldier before Jonas Jonsson (Grip)]

    Son: Erik. Född 15/3 1786

    Son: Jonas Jonsson 25/8 1786 [He is is son of Jonas Jonsson (Grip)]

    Inhyses Jonas Jonsson. Född 1774. ["our" Jonas Jönsson (Grip) with wrong birth year?]

    Soldat Olof Hiller. Född 1764. [The new soldier in living in Getbo]

    Source (bild 79/ sida 68): https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0006777_00079#?c=&m=&s=&cv=78&xywh=184%2C3049%2C2961%2C1575


    So Anders Grip dies 18. Marts 1789.

    It must be Jonas Jonsson (Grip) that dies 27. marts 1791 (probably at the fort Sveaborg in Finland).

    Then Olof Hiller takes over as soldier.

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  • Niels Just Rasmussen
    Niels Just Rasmussen ✭✭✭
    July 28, 2023 edited July 28, 2023

    Julita kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/10497/A I/1 b (1783-1794) [only women]:

    Getbos soldattorp.

    hustru [crossed out and written above "enkan"] Kjerstin Andersdotter. Född 1757. Ifrån Oxhagen.

    Source (bild 139/ sida 125): https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0006778_00139#?c=&m=&s=&cv=138&xywh=-53%2C1979%2C2961%2C1575

    NB: So we know that Jonas Jonsson (Grip) was here, as we have her son and wife.

    Anna Stina is not listed, but she also died very young.


    Julita kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/10497/A I/2 b (1794-1806) [only women]:

    Getbos soldattorp.

    Enkan Kerstin Andersdotter. Född 1757. Flyttat til Engstugan 1797. [= Ängstugan]

    Source (bild 123/ sida 112): https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0006780_00123#?c=&m=&s=&cv=122&xywh=-837%2C1858%2C6141%2C3267

    NB: Where you found she married Jonas Berggren 26. December 1797.


    Julita kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/10497/A I/2 a (1794-1806) [only men]

    åbo Jonas Berggren. Född 1736.

    Styfson [stepson, to Jonas Berggren] Jonas Jonsson. Född 25/8 1786. Ifrån Getboda Soldattorp.

    Source (bild 65/ sida 51): https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0006779_00065#?c=&m=&s=&cv=64&xywh=-31%2C520%2C3807%2C2025

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  • G Haux
    G Haux ✭✭
    July 28, 2023

    @Ulrich Neitzel Thank you. This is a child that hadn't been entered before. I am glad I was able to find her.

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  • G Haux
    G Haux ✭✭
    July 28, 2023

    @Niels Just Rasmussen Thank you for these military records. They are very interesting.

    There is a Jonas born 30 May 1774. Can you help me with the farm name? I don't know if they are same persons though.

    The soldat website link didn't work. All the other records I was able to see and all the clerical records I already have.

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  • Niels Just Rasmussen
    Niels Just Rasmussen ✭✭✭
    July 28, 2023

    The centrale soldatregistret link is not that important as the information is based on the "generalmönsterrullor" (which is linked above) and I have copy pasted the information from the site as it was.


    Since you found a Jonas Jonsson from 1774, he is definitely another Jonas Jonsson as "our" Jonas Jonsson is from ca. 1755. [He is first named "Grip" when becoming a soldier].


    The 30. Maj 1774 born one is son of another Jonas Jonasson and hustru Anna Johansdotter i ?Formerstugan?

    So could the father be "our" Jonas Jonsson born 1755, is what you think?!


    Julita kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/10497/A I/1 a (1783-1794) [men only]

    Formarstugan.

    No Jonas Jonassson/Jonsson - father nor son - found in this husförhör.

    Source (bild 75/ sida 64): https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0006777_00075#?c=&m=&s=&cv=74&xywh=-27%2C2889%2C5115%2C2721

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  • G Haux
    G Haux ✭✭
    July 28, 2023

    @Niels Just Rasmussen No, I don't think he belongs to the Jonas Jonsson that I have been looking at but since there is a birth record I thought I might be able to track the family since he was born 10 years before there are clerical records. I would have to do it through the birth records though.

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