Translation request
Dear Group
I have a Danish census document from 1855 that I have been able to translate except for birth places of two of the family members.
The father Margus Spiro was born in Kremenchug Russia. But the wife Line and the son Izak I cannot decipher. Any help would be hugely appreciated. I have attached the document in question.
Sincerely
SHaron Jacob
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Trosbekendelse: Jødisk
Svendborg Mosaiske Menighed [no Martin Spiro appears in Svendborg as circumcised, neither in the jewish church book for Copenhagen].
The Census.
Margus Spiro: Kremenzug [several Kremenzug/Kremenchuk exists].
Line Spiro & Isach Spiro: I can't discern what it says sadly.
Martin Spiro: Svendborg.
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Thank you so much Niels. It is very likely that Martin Spiro was circumcised under his other name Mendel. This family moved around so much, they actually landed up in London.
Is there anyway to get a better copy of this census so that it can be fully read?
Again I do appreciate the help!
Sharon
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The Danish Archives version is here, but it is not really in any better quality.
Source (page 163): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=121289#121289,17490944
He was in "Svendborg Mosaiske", just not written chronologically...
Born: 25. August 1854 in Svendborg.
Name: Mendel Spiro.
Circumcision date: (not registred, but should be 1 week after birth)
Father: defekter Markus Spiro. [a defector from Russia?]
Mother: hustru Line Spiro.
Source (page 6, bottom left): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=22019329#451237,80771859
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Niels thank you so much you are such a star!
Sharon
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Hi Sharon.
In the census of UK 1891 we have a "Isaac Spero" living in Portsea, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom.
He should be born 1850 in Hamburg and is a "picture frame maker".
Mother Leah Spero, born in Russia [= Line Spiro in the danish 1855 census?] and children of Isaac: Moses and Harriet, both born in Liverpool.
Source: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:43JT-TN2
A divorce court file from 1879: Isaac Spero & Isabella Spero.
Source: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7979503
This geni page gives us a birth of Isaac Spero to be "Altena, Markischer Kreis, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany" in 1849.
Source: https://www.geni.com/people/Isaac-Spero/6000000086923498106
NB: One probably need "archion.de" to find the original files.
Altena is not even close to Hamburg, so maybe it is instead Altona, as that in nowadays a part of Hamburg.
Altona was part of dukedom of Slesvig-Holsten under the Danish King until 1864.
Sadly because of the 1st Slesvig war (1848-1851), there is no census in Slesvig-Holsten in 1850.
A brother "Rev. Emanuel Spero" born in Svendborg 1855 [correct is 1854], died 1927 in Marlybone, London.
"Cantor, Minister and Reader of the Central Synagogue, appointed as Chaplain of the Lodge of Israel Freemasons as "Brother Rev. Emanuel Spero" at their 111th installation meeting"
Source: https://www.geni.com/people/Rev-Emanuel-Spero/6000000086923298155
The mother "Eva Leah Spero (born Katzenellenbogen)", should have been born in Kremenchuk, Poltava (now Ukraine) in 1829.
Source: https://www.geni.com/people/Eva-Spero/6000000086923606133
Of course all these information needs verifications in official documents.
Cheers
Niels
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There is in fact a Spiro in Copenhagen in 1845, who is born in Hamburg!
Census 1845: Copenhagen. Sankt Annæ Vester Kvarter. Borgergade 181,2.Sal.
Nathan Spiro Mand 78 Hamborg Gift Grosserer
Trine Ruben Kvinde 62 Helsingør Gift Hans kone
Serine Sandersen Kvinde 29 Kiøbenhavn Ugift Tienestepige
Christian Schmidt Mand 21 Aalborg Ugift Lieutenant a la Suite, Artellerie Elev af Hoischel, logerende
Source: https://www.danishfamilysearch.dk/cid6217757
Newspaper 2. February 1850 with the death-notification of "Grosserer N. B. Spiro" by his wife T. Spiro, born Ruben.
NB: [Printer mistake for N.P Spiro], since the wife must be Trine Ruben, we have the right person mentioned in the census 1845.
Jewish cemetery information in Copenhagen.
Nathan Philip Spiro (Natan ben Feiwisch Spiro) was buried 29. January 1850.
http://tom.brondsted.dk/mosaiskebegravelser/?details&id=4124&kgrd=1
So could there be a family connection with Margus Spiro that made them come to Hamburg (where Nathan Philip Spiro was born)?
In the Danish newspapers there appear from 1858 onwards "Brødrene Spiro" [the brothers Spiro] in Hamburg that sells cigaret papers...
See 11. June 1858: https://www2.statsbiblioteket.dk/mediestream/avis/record/doms_aviser_page%3Auuid%3A320084ba-33b2-4b61-bdf6-d723de8663ad/query/%22br%C3%B8drene%20spiro%22
In 1875 you have "Spiro & KO" in Admiralitätstraße 77 in Hamburg as "General-agent" for the "Allan Line" (Montreal Ocean Steamship Company) transporting emigrants from Hamburg to Canada and all of North America via Liverpool.
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WOW Niels you are an amazing researcher and generous with your time. This line is my cousin's maternal line and she has all the details laid out. But definitely the Katzenellenbogan line is her maternal line. The GENI entries are managed by her.
What I do know is that Isaac Spiro and the family did land up in England and stayed there. I have sent on all your information to my cousin. I am of the opinion that the more information the better.
Have a wonderful weekend, and once again, MANY thanks for all your hard work. I so appreciate the effort!
Sincerely
Sharon Jacob
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Hi Sharon.
I have tried to find a church book over Altona Mosaic congregation, but haven't been able to locate whether one even exists?!
From 1814 all Jewish congregation within Denmark & Slesvig Holsten should have church books [Copenhagen has already from 1810].
Altona was actually the first place in Denmark/Slesvig-Holsten, where Jews got special privileges!
King Christian IV had personally acquired Altona in 1640 and in 1641 he gave the Jews there the protected position of "Schutzjuden" with religious freedom and semi autonomy, which they didn't have in Hamburg!
So Jews living in Hamburg could become member of the Altona-congregation and get "Schutzjuden" protection, even if they chose to stay in Hamburg [Altona was a small fishing village just west of Hamburg].
In 1645 [other published works says 1646] a woman named Glückl was born in Altona and her father had been a Danish "Schutzjuden". She married Chaim Goldschmidt from Hamel and she was henceforth known as "Glückl Hameln".
Her memoirs (written 1690-1691) and some letters in jiddisch has been preserved and are an important historical window to that time period.
Jewish history in Altona [Danish article]: https://tidsskrift.dk/fortidognutid/article/download/75380/109273/
Memoirs in english translation of Glückl Hameln: https://www.amazon.de/Memoirs-Gl%C3%BCckel-Hameln-Gluckel/dp/0805205721
It is very likely that Isaac Spiro/Spero could have been born in Altona/Hamburg.
Since Slesvig/Holsten was lost to Prussia in 1864 I have simply no idea what could have happened to the church books 1814-1864 for the Altona Jewish congregation?!
Archion.de doesn't seem to have any jewish church books from Altona?! [but I am not an expert in German genealogy]
Cheers
Niels
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