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    Just found a John Davies

    AaronArthurDavis
    AaronArthurDavis ✭
    November 23, 2022 in Social Groups

    I found a 90 year old in a 1841 census in Llandyssiliago, Cardiganshire Wales it is about 5 miles from Aberporth Carniganshire where they say that David Davies was born. The death that I have connected on my John Davies was in 1855. Is this even possible?

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    • SerraNola
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      November 28, 2022

      @Davis Aaron Arthur1 I know you have posted on a lot of different threads but I'll just respond on this one.

      I finally had some time to take a look at your John Davies and son, David Davies. (I also noticed you've been busy disconnecting some of the bad sources--good for you!) I always try to start with something I know is factual and in this case it seems the 1841 and 1851 censuses for David and his family at least give you where they lived. In 1841, David is a miner living in Bedwellty parish, possibly working at the Ddrysiog colliery, since that name is given as place of residence. In 1851, he has changed occupations (smith striker) and moved to another town, but still in Bedwellty. Do you think it likely that David came with his father From Cardigan to Monmouthshire? If John was a smith (on David's marriage record), did he get his son started as a smith striker? If John really did die in 1855 in the Tredegar district it might help to order a copy of his death registration to find his place of residence (he would likely have been there in 1851) and to see if there are any clues to his correct age, occupation, or place of birth. I saw that you removed David's baptism source for the Independent church in Llangybi. The names of all of the other siblings came from the same source and should also probably be removed. The actual records for the baptisms in the Cilgwyn church show their birth place is Blaenwern in the parish of Llanfair Clydogau, 28 miles from Aberporth. Lastly, I would add that Aberporth might not be where the family lived, but just the closest large town. My ancestor listed Aberporth as a birthplace on one census, Blaenporth on another, and Blaenannerch on another. I believe he was born in Blaenannerch.

      Wish I had more to offer and hope you will stay in touch.

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    • AaronArthurDavis
      AaronArthurDavis ✭
      November 29, 2022

      @SerraNola My father has posted his copy of the death registry in memories of David Davies of 1799. I am thinking the same thing. I think Grandpa John Davies father of David Davies Sr.moved into the city after his first wife died in about 1846 being a Smith when he moved in and training his son and grandsons the trade. On the census record Grandpa John Davies is a Laborer in 1851. The father of the second wife is a millwright. I did not see Thomas or his brother David on the 1851 census. And John Davies is a lodger at another location. I did contact the publisher of Genealcymru YouTube channel for he is related to the David John David and we are not related. I have done some searching on the NLW web site. family search will not allow me to remove the other children of David John David.

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    • AaronArthurDavis
      AaronArthurDavis ✭
      November 29, 2022

      @SerraNola Thomas and his brother where both miner's on the the 1841 census one at 13 and one at 14. On the 1851 census brother John Davies at 11 was a Smith Sticker. Thomas migrated to the states in 1856. They are well documented in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints Ward archives in the Wales branches. Still in contact with my father for clarification. But mostly trying to follow the trades. My father has not touched these records for 20 years and my mother's family has not touched on Wales for 50 years and they higher someone to go to Wales for the Records. I just feel that I have better and cheaper resources today.

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    • AaronArthurDavis
      AaronArthurDavis ✭
      November 29, 2022

      @SerraNola In Aberporth thier is the Church of England and A Methodist Church. The Methodist Church was established in 1740 but one was not built until about 1795. The archive for the Calvinist Methodist is in the National Library of Wales.

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