What does Brm. Fort. No. stand for in remarks column of Communion Books?

dlouise

What does Brm. Fort. No. stand for in remarks column of Communion Books?

Norm Baker

I see the note in the record that you referred to in the 1879-1888 communion book for Karvia.

I think that what looks like "Fört" is actually "Födt" which would be born. I don't know what the "Brm" is unless it has something to do with "Barn = child" which could make the notation "Barn födt No. 210 = child born No. 210". I don't know what the "No. 210" is about. But the illegitimate child Amanda, born 28 December 1865, must be the reason for the note.

There is a record of this absolution in the Karvia parish records on 12 February 1866 here : https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_eng/jasenille/paikat.php?bid=8837&pnum=26. The absolution date in the Communion record is 17/12 1866, but I think that date is incorrect.

It might be useful to look through the rest of the notes in that communion book to see if there are any others like it. Sometimes you can figure it out if you come across something similar.

Norm Baker

Never mind the previous comment. Looking through the other communion records for this family, it is definitely "Brmfört No. 210" and I have never run across that before.

Perhaps @HeidiKuosmanen 2 could help us out here.

Here are other records with that note in them:

https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_eng/jasenille/paikat.php?bid=5045&pnum=466.

https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_eng/jasenille/paikat.php?bid=5045&pnum=466.

https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_eng/jasenille/paikat.php?bid=5047&pnum=422.

dlouise

Thanks so much for sharing your time and knowledge. Much appreciated!

dlouise

Thanks Norm and Heidi! Your help on this site is much needed and much appreciated!

Norm Baker

Let me try this again to see if @Heidi Kuosmanen can help us.

These are the links (plus there are others in the records that are similar:

https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_eng/jasenille/paikat.php?bid=5045&pnum=440.

https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_eng/jasenille/paikat.php?bid=5045&pnum=466.

https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_eng/jasenille/paikat.php?bid=5047&pnum=422.

Heidi Kuosmanen

Brm.fört. or Brmfrt. is an abbreviation from bråttmålsförteckning which is in English a criminal record.

The No. is the number of record.

Criminal records of Karvia for years 1836-1956 are available only in the National Archives of Finland and they are not digitized yet.

Norm Baker

Thank you Heidi!

I looks like the criminal records for Karvia are available on SSHY (FFHA). I haven't ever seen these records for other parishes.

This is the record that refers to Maria Johansdotter Liimu (#210): https://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/sivut_eng/jasenille/paikat.php?bid=8838&pnum=19.

Heidi Kuosmanen

Thanks Norm.

There are these records digitally available for some parishes in National Archive. I have not seen these in FFHA before so I did not check. It seems that I need to ckeck in the future.