Is it possible to merge two related trees?
Jenne tree LZ2Y-YPL has a child Maria. Not shown is her husband or her decendents. She is shown as Jennie G3TM-WCD in the Hiller tree. Her husband is shown there. Can these trees be merged?
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@brad75552 brad75552
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You certainly can "Merge"/'Combine" two (x2) "Deceased" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".
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But ...
That said ...
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If you do so, you are NOT "Merging"/'Combining" two (x2) 'Trees' (or, 'Pedigrees')!!!
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You do not appear to understand the premise/concept of "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".
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We do not have our OWN "Tree" in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".
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We ONLY have "Branches", that are interconnected, in this SINGLE "One" World "Tree", for all of us, that is "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".
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"Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" is NOT like "Ancestry.com" or the like.
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We DO NOT have "Private"/"Personal" 'Trees' in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".
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Like other "Web" Sites; and/or, 'standalone' personal programmes.
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We do not even, own; or, manage; and, are NOT even responsible for, the "Deceased" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".
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"Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" is built on a "Open Edit" Platform - hence, why any registered User/Patron can "Edit" (ie. Add, Delete; and/or, Change) ANY "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".
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You can certainly "Merge"/"Combine" any "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" with another "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch", regardless of who the User/Patron was that initially created those "Deceased" individuals/persons; as, they DO NOT reside with the User/Patron who initially created them - they are "Public".
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If fact, you can ONLY see "Deceased" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch"; except, with this 'rider', that you can ALSO only see "Living" individual/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" that YOU created; as, they reside in your "Private Spaces".
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No other User/Patron can see ANY "Living" individuals/persons that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces" of the User/Patron who created them.
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We CANNOT even see the ACTUAL Record in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearchc" of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc) if they are "Living"; and, they have their own "FamilySearch" Account.
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Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch"; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:
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- You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.
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- You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them with any other "Living" individual/person residing in the "Private Spaces" of another User//Patron.
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There is CURRENTLY no mechanism in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, as you suggest, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons in their own "Private Spaces" with/between other/another User/Patron.
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There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws within the many various Countries and Unions throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.
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"Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" is used in many Countries and Unions throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws throughout the World.
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Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.
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Another factor is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed' into the Programme that is "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch".
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'Yes', these "Living" individuals/person in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.
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I know that there are "Duplicates" of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.
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So, in essence, you are correct. ...
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Here is a good place to start, with how things work in "Family Tree" of "FamilySearch" (and, other programmes as well):
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Introducing The Family History Guide
https://www.familysearch.org/ask/learningViewer/733
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Introducing The Family History Guide
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The Family History Guide
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I hope this helps, to put things into perspective ...
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Brett
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Brett,
Thank you for the quick response and detailed explanation.
I have explored the Family History site and found your explanation as helpful.
Your explanation of the Family Tree as one large tree for the world was perfect.
I was hoping that the tree would work that way.
I'm glad that I found what I would consider the "right" solution (as opposed to Ancestry, etc.).
The hidden nature of the living people also makes perfect sense.
(It must be a little programming nightmare to migrate them to the Family Tree when they die!).
As for the problem that I think I have found, I will be quite careful making changes to the global tree.
It would appear that if I merge just the two records of Maria Jenne and Jennie Hiller, the combined record will maintain links to Maria's parents and to Jennie's husband and children. I will do further research to make sure this is correct.
My father created a hand-drawn tree of the Jennes (his grandmother was Maria/Jennie).
It is this tree which showed the breaking of the Maria/Jennie link.
There are other missing descendants which I have not yet investigated.
What a fine puzzle my sister has handed to me!
Anyway, again many thanks for your thorough and enlightening reply
Brad.
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@brad75552 brad75552
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Brad
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Glad I was able to help.
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You are correct when you say ...
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"... It would appear that if I merge just the two records of Maria Jenne and Jennie Hiller, the combined record will maintain links to Maria's parents and to Jennie's husband and children. ...".
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That is what happens in a "Merge"/"Combine"; of course, provided you bring everyone (all the Relationships) across to the "Surviving" individual/person (ie. record).
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"Merges"/"Combines" can be quite complex at times, slow and steady, usually does the job - take your time.
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It may take a few "Merges"/"Combines" to get a 'handle' on it; but, once you do, you will never look back (that is, until the Programmers "Change" something).
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Good Luck.
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Enjoy.
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Brett
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