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Deanna Louise Jenkins
Deanna Louise Jenkins ✭
January 17, 2022 edited October 3, 2024 in Social Groups

Would someone be so kind as to let me know what the details are for item number 121 for Helena Herczegh.

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 17, 2022

    121. Born 6, baptized 7 Decemb. 1859

    Child: Helena, female, legitimate

    Parents: Franciscus Herczegh, Maria Vilt, RCath, teacher schoolmaster

    Residence: Ipolyságh number 175

    Godparents: Ladislaus Jánossÿ, Maria Boda, RCath, chaplain

    Officiant: Ladislaus Jánossÿ chaplain of Ipolyságh

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    Helena = Ilona, Franciscus = Ferencz, Ladislaus = László, Maria = Mária.

    (My parents were born about 16 miles straight east of Ipolyság [Šahy], in Balassagyarmat, so I know exactly where it is, though I haven't been there.)

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  • Deanna Louise Jenkins
    Deanna Louise Jenkins ✭
    January 18, 2022

    Thank you Julia. I’m starting to see a pattern of Maria Boda as a Godparent for Ferencz and Maria’s children. That intrigues me, now I want to find out more about her and her relationship to Ferencz and Maria.

    Also, I’m wondering if Ipolyságh is the name of the school that Ferencz was a teacher/schoolmaster?

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    January 18, 2022

    Ipolyságh is an old-fashioned spelling of the town's name. (It'd modernly be Ipolyság if it weren't now in Slovakia.) They didn't generally bother to name schools in small towns, as there usually was only one of them. (Ipoly is the name of the river. It forms the border between Hungary and Slovakia from Ipolytarnóc until it joins the Danube at Szob, except for a short bit right at Ipolyság where the river goes through the middle of town, while the border stays south of it.)

    It was pretty common to repeat godparents. Sometimes, a godparent first shows up as a wedding witness. (Witnesses were usually both men, though, while godparents were usually one man and one woman, so I've never encountered a full repeat between wedding and baptism.) I don't know if anyone's ever done a proper study, but my impression is that there's about an equal chance of a repeating godparent being related (a sibling or cousin) or just a good friend/neighbor.

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  • Deanna Louise Jenkins
    Deanna Louise Jenkins ✭
    January 18, 2022

    Thank you Julia for your response. I am so excited to learn anything I can about the people who came before me. I don’t know if I’ll ever get to Hungary to see where my ancestors lived but I have a genuine love for them. I have been documenting all that I can to share with my children and grandchildren.

    I appreciate all that you do to help others including me!

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