Help in finding correct German town and Kirchspiel
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I am seeking help to find the correct town that my German family is from. I am unsure of what avenue to take. I have attached a picture of the obituary of my great great grandfather. In it it gives 2 different birth towns/parish (not sure what they are called) and I looked on Meyers Gazette but it is so confusing. What does by Ruendel mean? And is it Hessendorf or Hessen? I am still a little new at this. So i am seeking advice and help on what to do or where to go? What town/city would they be referring to in this obituary? This is the most information I have found so far. After years of searching, I feel like I still do not know what I am doing HAHA.
thank you for your help.
Courtney McGlinchy
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Hello Courtney,
I am pretty sure that the birthplace of your gg grandfather is Hessendorf as given in Meyers: https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10785047. Ruendel seems to be a misspelling of Rinteln, a town 2 miles NE of Hessendorf. Both places were situated in the province of Hessen-Nassau at that time (now they belong to the German federal state of Niedersachsen), more precisely in an exclave about 100 miles north of the Hesse mainland (see map https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Hesse-Nassau#/media/File:German_Empire_-_Prussia_-_Hesse_Nassau_(1871).svg).
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On Ancestry I found a family tree with additional information for Anton Friedrich "Fred" Hagemann:
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@Ulrich Neitzel Thank you for confirming that and helping me. I appreciate it. So does that mean that the closest Kirchspiel would be in Mollenbeck based on what Meyers says? That is the part I do not understand. They were Lutheran and I can't seem to figure out how to find the closest parish to start looking for church records. I watched a video that says I need to find the closest Kirchspiel, and then look through the church documents there. I just can't seem to find his parents anywhere. Thanks for any direction you can point me in.
-Courtney
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Hello Courtney,
you are quite right that the nearest church/parish was Möllenbeck. The point is: I can't find church books for Möllenbeck in Archion (https://www.archion.de/en/the-portal/), which is the online portal for German lutheran church books. The parish in Möllenbeck (https://www.reformiert.de/moellenbeck.html) belongs to the branch of the Reformed Churches, maybe these have a different depository. You can contact the pastor Ute Schulz directly by email (schulz@moellenbeck.de) for more information.
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Oh my gosh your amazing!!! Thank you thank you! Yes i have been trying to use Archion and I even bought a pass to use all the features. I didn't really know what I was doing anyway and my German is very rusty so it produced nothing. So that makes so much sense. Thank you again. For future, if I run into a situation like this again, how did you find the parish, or know that website too look for one? I had no idea how or where to even go or what to type in the web.
Thank you for all your time answering my questions. I feel there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
Courtney
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You are welcome, Courtney. That's what this group is for. I'm glad that I can help you.
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@Cindy Jarvis Hello and thank you for the welcome! I tried the ask a question link and it wouldn't let me do that. It says that i am not allowed to perform that function. Am I missing something? So my next help topic i had to use the discussion one again.
Thanks for the help.
Courtney
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