Looking for sources for the Eric Nilsson/Marina Thomasson family. I need some help translating what
Found the family in Skogstorp,Ramsberg (T) AI:3 (1699-1710) Image: 195 Page: 189:
Eric Nilsson (31?)
Marina Thomasson (31?)
Anders Thomasson (I think) (10?)
Name and relationship I can't read Nilsson (19?)
some name rubbed out (16?)
Dotter Brita Ersson (number smeared?)
Thomas Ersson (6?)
In the Ramsberg (T) Al:4 1711-1722 record in Skogstorp, on page 79 I found the family but am not sure if the numbers after their names are the birth year or their ages:
Eric Nilsson: 37
Marina Thomasson: 37
Then somebody squeezed in I can't read: 27
Dott Brita Ersson: 14
son Thomas Ersson: 12
Dott Elisabet Ersson:8
According to FS Marina died in 1711 (but again no sources) . If that is correct that myserious person written in under her name could be Maria Hansson, Eric's second wife. In the next record covering 1723-1733, page 71 it looks like the family with the wife Maria Hansson, some more Ersson children
Thomas Ersson (age 24?) and his wife Elisabeth Ohlsdotter (age 23?),
Elisabeth Ersdotter (age 18?)
Hans Ersson (age 10?)
Maria Ersdotter (age 15?)
Carin Ersdotter (age 11?)
Peter Ersson (age 8?)
Matts Ersson (age 3 ?}
Do I have that right?
Also I would like to find a marriage record for the two marriages but I just can't read it.
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Hello,
Firstly I would like to remind you that most people at that time had first name and patronymic (as their last name). Patronymic is formed: fathers's name + s (genetive) + son / dotter (son/daughter). So e.g. Marina is Thomasdotter not Thomasson.
Here is what I found:
Skogstorp,Ramsberg (T) AI:3 (1699-1710) Image: 195 Page: 189: (years 1705-1710)
Erich Nilsson 31 years old (at year 1705)
wife Marina Thomasdotter 31
a boy Anders Johansson 10 (no relationship given)
brother (to Erich) Johan Nilsson 19
Name which is rubbed out, Anna Thomasdotter 26 ( seems to be written in wrong place first and then rubbed out, Anna is just little up)
daughter Brita Ersdotter 8 (daughter to Erich and Marina)
son Thomas Ersson 6 (son to Erich and Marina)
Ramsberg (T) Al:4 1711-1722 record in Skogstorp, on page 79 (years 1711-1716)
Erich Nilsson 37 years old (at year 1711)
wife Marina Thomasdotter 37 (right page there is a notation obiit, which means died)
wife Maria Hansdotter 27
daughter Brita Ersdotter 14
son Thomas Ersson 12
daughter Elisabet Ersdotter 8
Death record for Marina Thomasdotter : 12 Feb 1711, cause of death: childbirth
Ramsbergs kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och dopböcker, SE/ULA/11259/C/2 (1699-1725), bildid: C0001191_00153, sida 130
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0001191_00153
Marriage record for Erich Nilsson and Maria Hansdotter 17 Sept 1711
Ramsbergs kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och dopböcker, SE/ULA/11259/C/2 (1699-1725), bildid: C0001191_00017, sida 7
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0001191_00017
Marriage record for Erich Nilsson and Marina Thomasdotter 30 Juli 1696
Ramsbergs kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och dopböcker, SE/ULA/11259/C/1 (1679-1698), bildid: C0001190_00098, sida 89
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0001190_00098
Family of Erich Nilsson And Maria Hansdotter can be also found in Ramsberg (T) Al:4 1711-1722 record in Skogstorp, on page 190 (years 1717-1722)
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0001161_00206
Next book 1723-1733 page 71 covers years 1723-1728 and you got right all the names and ages (in year 1723)
Ramsbergs kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11259/A I/5 (1723-1733), bildid: C0001162_00084, sida 71
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0001162_00084
Same book , part II, covers years 1729-1733 page 78, is this family
Ramsbergs kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11259/A I/5 (1723-1733), bildid: C0001162_00207, sida 78
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0001162_00207
Erich Nilsson has a notation on the right page, obiit (died)
Death record, 14 Maj 1731, (no given cause of death)
Ramsbergs kyrkoarkiv, Födelse- och dopböcker, SE/ULA/11259/C/2 (1699-1725), bildid: C0001191_00176, sida 153
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0001191_00176
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I was born and raised in Norway. Send me the link and I’ll try to translate.
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