Translation help please

Harleynut97

This is the marriage record of Luigi Iovino & Concetta Ardolina. It immediately strikes me as odd that both the bride and groom state their father is unknown. Each seem to be taking on the last name of their mothers. I'm seeking translation help on the notes at the bottom of the record. I was able to find the birth record for Luigi from the notes but would like help on the key dates and other information about the parent(s). Thank you in advance for any help

https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12657/an%5Fua36150884/Lmgm94R

This is a closeup of the notes

Pierluigi_O

"I documenti presentati sono
1° atto di nascita dello sposo nato in Portici addi ventidue marzo milleottocentosessantacinque,
2° stato libero dello sposo rilasciato dal sindaco di Portici in data ventiquattro novembre milleottocentottantanove,
3° atto di nascita della sposa nata in Nola addi diciassette giugno milleottocentosessantanove,
4° atto di morte di Lucia Ardolino deceduta in data addi ventiquattro luglio milleottocentosettantacinque,
5° copia della deliberazione dei cinque gennaio milleottocentonovata emessa dal consiglio di famiglia cui è soggetta la sposa rilasciato dal cancelliere della pretura di Nola in data cinque detto mese ed anno,
6° certificato di seguita pubblicazione fatte in Nola la prima addi cinque la seconda addi dodici gennaio milleottocentonovanta.
La genitrice dello sposo qui presente ha concessa la sua dispensa derivante dall'età.
Letto il presente atto agli intervenuti si è dagli sposi e dai testimoni con me firmato, e non già dalla genitrice dello sposo perchè analfabeta."

SantaNinfa

Grazie mille @Pierluigi_O

@Harleynut97

Some links to the records mentioned:

Corrected URL of marriage document:
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12657/an_ua36150884/Lmgm94R

Marriage 16 Jan 1890 in Nola, Napoli

Documents presented for marriage:

Birth record of groom (Luigi Iovino) born n Portici on 22 Mar 1865
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12657/an_ua227382/LyvXG1V

Birth record of bride (Concetta Ardolino) in Nola on 17 Jun 1869
https://antenati.cultura.gov.it/ark:/12657/an_ua36151019/0nqJvol

Harleynut97

@Pierluigi_O @SantaNinfa

I wanted to thank both of you for your help in the translation of the notes and links to the birth records. Unfortunately regarding the death of the brides mother, Lucia Ardolino, the death year of 1875 is not available in Nola, Just my luck.

I'm sorry about the link mistake, I'm not sure what I did wrong.

I'm curious as to what you thought about both bride & groom both saying father unknown?

Thank you both again for your help!

Cousin Vinny

@Harleynut97 your URL contained an encoded character which changed the unsafe ASCII character "_" to "%5F". While web browsers will automatically encode URLs when retrieving a web page, if you enter an already encoded URL into the address bar the browser will try to encode the encoded character, and you wind up with a bad URL. But in your case I don't know how that would have happened unless you copied and pasted the link from multiple sources because the characters "/" and ":" are also unsafe ASCII characters that need to be encoded. If the URL was fully encoded it would have looked like this:

https%3A%2F%2Fantenati.cultura.gov.it%2Fark%3A%2F12657%2Fan%5Fua36150884%2FLmgm94R

Regarding the unknown fathers: look at the birth records - both children were illegitimate and had the surnames of their mothers. In each case the mother of the child presented the baby for registration; in the groom's case the father is not listed and in the bride's case the mother specifically said the father did not want to be named.

In the bride's case, at least, it may be that the parents had a church marriage but not a civil marriage as church marriages were not recognized for legal purposes in Italy from 1866 until 1929.

Harleynut97

@Cousin Vinny Thank you for your thoughts on the bride's and groom's fathers. I wish I could read more Italian. I can usually figure out dates and ages, but I struggle a lot on margin notes ect.

I've normally found the record in Antenati, highlight the browser address bar and ctl C , and then ctl V into the box where I am typing the question to the group. Is there a different way I should post a link. I use Windows and Firefox as browser

Cousin Vinny

That should work but you should double-check the validity of the link by reloading the page with the image before copying the URL