Russian naming conventions

MDNash79

Is it possible that Vasilii Emelyanov Shubin is the same name as Vasilli Emilich Shubin?

For context Vasilli's ID number is LV76-YF1. Just trying to keep my people straight.

IgorYa

It definitely is possible , especially for a catholic family. I suppose his father could have been named Emil and it got changed Emelyan in official records where they tend to put more common Russian names. Depending on fathers name interpretation the patronymic would be Emilyevich for Emil and Emelyanovich for Emelyan. Emilich sound like shortened non-formal version of Emilyevich that for example friends would use.

MDNash79

@IgorYa Thank you so much ! At some point prior to emigration to the USA, the family became involved in the Molokan church. Do you think the patronymic would be similar?

MelissaKincaid

My family is also Molokan, and I have a few Shubin ancestors from the same village as Vasilii Emelyanov, Voskresenovka. I've even spent some time researching his particular family. People's patronymics were often spelled differently after emigrating. I think they used spellings in Latin script that approximated how they pronounced it and syllables were lost in transliteration. Often Mikhailovich is spelled Mihailich after emigrating, for example. The name Emil was not used among this Molokan community but Emelyan was. So Emilich would almost definitely be Emelyanovich or Emelyanov in Russian. In general, people converted to the Molokan faith from the Russian Orthodox church (not Catholicism).

MDNash79

@MelissaKincaid thank you so much for this perspective! And now you have piqued my interest in the rest of your findings. In fact the document that you posted on Ancestry is my source of curiousity for Vasilii.

I'm quite certain there are errors in my tree and I am hoping to somehow outline everything correctly. I've been relying information posted in the Skaggs/Acosta & Schwegerl/Burrows trees. My maternal grandmother is Emma Shubin LD9T-D5C and she would be my starting point.

If you have PID's for her parentage that you are confident in, as far back as you can go I would love to review them, geography and visual documentation.

Thank you again for answering my post, and I hope we now have a mutually beneficial geneological connection.

MDNash79

*Skaggs/Acosta & Schwegerl/Burrows trees are in Ancestry.