Knonau ZH - baptism - 1605 - Grob - Hans Heinrich

Kent Gardiner

First document:

https://www.gatheringgardiners.com/2020/02/heinrich-grob-1605-1676.html

WSeelentag

Hans Heinrÿch, ein ehlicher Son Jos Graben vnd Dorathe Frÿ, ward getoufft den 21 tag Julÿ A(nn)o 1605.

Zügen Fenderÿch Gründler vnd Elsÿ Walder.

Fenderÿch = Fähnrich = flagbearer.

In this context I have come across a very interesting notebook listing Grob baptisms in Knonau. I have summarized on Geneal-Forum all data of relevance to your line. Conclusion: the Bevölkerungsverzeichnis is a bit misleading and likely even wrong (in one aspect).

1) The families likely moved from Knonau to Ottenbach around 1631/33.

2) Felix is not the father of Joss and Heinrich (this was my interpretation - not explicitly stated) - he is just a relative, likely widowed and therefore just moving with the others.

3) If the baptism 1605 is the correct Heinrich, he and Joss will not be brothers - but father and son.

Kent Gardiner

https://community.familysearch.org/en/profile/WSeelentag What a great find! Thanks for sharing!! Wow, I read all the information. A treasure trove of relevant Grob family facts. I keep telling my wife how amazing you are!! She will never know.

Don't believe all you read in the Bevölkerungsverzeichnis. Not only that but you have added links. Super cool!! A lot of information at one time!!

Is there another Hans Heinrich (not baptized in Knonau) - or is the population register wrong about the families who moved to Knonau only a few years ago?

I can't find a Heinrich Grob born in Ottenbach in 1605. What relevant document will clear this up an firm up your thinking?

Thanks!!

WSeelentag

I consider it most likely that we have the "correct" Heinrich - and the writer in Ottenbach (1640) got confused by the family (not an old Ottenbach family), especially as Joss by then had already moved on.

If there was another Heinrich: this wouldn't have to be 1605! Married 1626 it could be any time before abt. 1608.

I hope you have subscribed to the topic - there is already another interesting post.

Kent Gardiner

https://community.familysearch.org/en/profile/WSeelentag I have looked for another Heinrich Grove b 1605 and not found one. Thus, I completely agree with you. Thanks for the post on the Forum. Excellent info!

I have subscribed!

WSeelentag

I have looked for another Heinrich Grob b 1605 and not found one.

Sorry - but as I said, if looking for an "alternative" - don't concentrate on 1605 !

If there was another Heinrich: this wouldn't have to be 1605! Married 1626 it could be any time before abt. 1608.

Kent Gardiner

https://community.familysearch.org/en/profile/WSeelentag I looked from 1605-1611 and not found another Heinrich Grob's baptismal record in Knonau. The records are difficult for me to read but I think this is correct. Best, KG