Urdorf ZH - 1678 - Bevölkerungsverzeichnis - Huber & Sidler - Heinrich & Catharina

Kent Gardiner

Last two documents but one:

I searched 12 BV's in Ottenbach, Mettmenstetten and Aeugst without finding a Heinrich and Catharina. Went to "search records" tab and looked for Catharina Sidler and found one in Urdorf. I thought, unusual but I've looked everywhere else. Why not? Went to the BV for 1678. Bingo. Her first two births match up. This is her. How she wandered from Ottenbach, to Mettmenstetten and finally to Urdorf is a mystery but there she is. It would be nice to have a translation of title page if possible as well as the BV. The handwriting is beautiful; I would say perfect! 😎 What a journey this has been!!!

https://www.gatheringgardiners.com/2020/01/katharina-sidler-1631.html

WSeelentag

The title page is a religious text in Latin – no info for the genealogical research - I’ll look into this later.

We obviously have connections for Sidler between Ottenbach and Mettmenstetten. The connection to Urdorf might(!) be the husband: Huber is one of the most common names in German speaking regions – no surprise they also held pre-1800 citizenship in Urdorf.

Now for the text (page 505): the first para is written in Greek letters – at least most of it (some are looking unfamiliar to me – but that could just be the handwriting). I can still recite the first lines of Homer's Odyssey – but my Greek is too rusted by now to attempt a translation 😉.

Catalogus - 1 - Der Kirchen und Gemeinds-genoßen zu OberUrdorf

Catalogue oft the parish and community members in Oberurdorf

II Heinrich Huber, Anna Oberdörfferin (https://suche.staatsarchiv.djiktzh.ch/detail.aspx?ID=2026999)

Kinder:

25 Hanß, in der Pfalz (Palatinate)

Söhn in der Ehe (married sons):

a. Hanß Jagli Huber, Cleophea Lenckin (no corresponding marriage entry in EDB)

Kinder:

18 Adelheit

16 Hanß (diser ist in disem 1678.ten Jahr ... zogen (moved somewhere?)

b. Heinrich Huber, Catharina Sydlerin

Kinder:

16 Anna (bapt. 10.08.1662)

14 Hanß (bapt. 14.02.1664)

12 Heinrich

3 Cathrindli

½ Magdalendli

Kent Gardiner

WSeelentag

Wow, that was a lot of work. If this isn't our couple we will have to go back to Billeter's Kleiner.

WSeelentag

I had suggested that Cathrin (born 1631 to Jakob and Vronegg Urmi) might have died between 1647 and 1649.

Kent Gardiner

https://community.familysearch.org/en/profile/WSeelentag If so, she only lived 16 to 18 years, never married or had children. Isn't that her under her parents in the 1649 BV? I assume your idea is based on her not showing up after the 1647 BV. I'm not sure where else we look for proof.

WSeelentag

Correct - I missed that: I misinterpreted the "Cath." as one of the notes on religious education.

What about the Bevölkerungsverzeichnisse 1657-1661: they are marked "lists of emigrants" and the like … are they these lists only - or are these lists just additional to the standard content?

WSeelentag

I have now published the Huber data on Geneal-Forum.

Whilst writing this up I had another look at the BV page - and came to another conclusion: "diser ist in disem 1678.ten Jahr ... zogen" doesn't refer to Hans - but his father Hans Jagli - and if I read/interpret this correctly, Hans Jagli (better: he and his family) had moved to Urdorf from Windisch, (today) canton Aargau. In this case the parents may have married in Aargau - which would explain why there is no entry in EDB. See Hans Jakob Huber oo (vor 1660) Cleophea Lenk.

Kent Gardiner

https://community.familysearch.org/en/profile/WSeelentag The Bevölkerungsverzeichnisse 1657-1661 are not helpful in the least.

WSeelentag

griffy has transcribed the Greek text: it is from the Acts of the Apostles - 20.28 - you better find that in the book yourself, rather me trying to translate into English.

You find it on the bottom of this post.