Antonius Hemmer Birth Record Translation
Hello,
My ancestor Antonius' record is the third record down on the page. He was illegitimate. We are using DNA and traditional research to find out who is father was. So I am verifying details.
Can you tell me please what the notations say below his name?
- The first date says May 21, 1882. We believe that Antonius was in the US by mid-1881. Could this be a request for his birth record?
2. The second date May 11, 1919, if I am correct and is very close to the date of his death which is May 4, 1919, in Little Falls, Minnesota.
3. Can you verify that the information is in the mother's column: Does it say: Josefa Hemmer was an unmarried needleworker, from Oberwald, native of the district of Voitsberg.
Thank you,
Tammi
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Hello @Tammi954,
(1) The abbreviated word at the beginning of the note is "Tfsch" = Taufschein = baptismal certificate. So it appears that a copy of his baptismal certificate was requested on 21 May 1882.
(2) I read the second date as: 5 Nov 1913. (Note that the year is written with four digits: 1913.) I am unable to decipher the abbreviations before this date, but this might indicate that there was a second request for his baptismal certificate on 5 Nov 1913.
(3) Josefa Hemmer, ledige Handarbeiterin, von Oberwald, Bezirk Voitsberg gebürtig = Josefa Hemmer, single [unmarried] handworker, native of Oberwald, District of Voitsberg.
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Hi, Robert, this is such good information.
(1) I am hoping Antonius' baptism record was requested by mail, but there is no way to prove that. If it was mailed, then our date of immigration of mid-1881 would hold. We don't have an immigration record.
(2) The date has no significance to any activity that I know about at this time in his life. Maybe he needed it for work. He died a widower, at 42, in 1919. I will keep note of this date.
(3) Thank you, once again valuable information to place Antonius' mother solidly as a native of Oberwald.
Best to you,
Tammi
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You're welcome, Tammi. I hope the DNA search works out for you.
Regarding the 1882 request for the baptismal certificate, it may be that Antonius arrived in the United States in mid-1881 and then realized that he needed a copy of his baptismal certificate. Without further evidence, I think your date of mid-1881 still "holds" in terms of your research.
If the request in 1913 was also for his baptismal certificate, he might have mislaid or lost the first copy and then needed another copy for whatever reason. Do you know if he became a U.S. citizen and if so, when?
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Hi, Robert,
Thank you for your comments on why the two requests could have been made.
Yes, he did become a US citizen. This would have occurred when 4 year old Antonius immigrated with his mother and her new US citizen husband sometime in early 1881.
I will try to make the story short with a little history.
June 7, 1877: Birth date of Antonius Johann Hemmer, illegitimate, Judenburg, Austria. His mother was 29-year-old Josefa Hemmer.
September 13, 1880: Josefa Hemmer, unmarried, age 32, married widower Blasius Salzer, age 61, in Judenburg, Austria. Blasius was born in Carinthia, Austria. He immigrated with his first family to Minnesota in 1857.
Blasius traveled back to Judenburg, with his wife, Magdalena, on a Passport dated December 1874. He and his wife stayed at the home where Josefa was a housekeeper. Magdalena fell ill and died in August 1877. Thus, the relationship between Blasius and Josefa.
Immigration: After the wedding, Josefa, Blasius and Antonius immigrated to the US sometime between the date of the wedding and July 9, 1881, when Josefa purchased land in Minnesota per a Warranty Deed. I haven't been able to find any ship manifest or other records to get the exact date.
My story become long, sorry.
Tammi
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You're welcome, Tammi.
The reason I asked about his becoming a citizen was because I though he might have asked for his baptismal certificate again in 1913 for that purpose, but that's not the case since he became a citizen through his father as a four-year-old.
Thanks for sharing the story — I found it interesting. My grandmother was born in Graz, Styria, Austria, in the mid-1890s and came to the U.S. in 1907.
Best regards, Robert
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I am hoping to fill in some of the gaps. Without the help of so many like you who help translate, it would not be possible!! Thank you and nice to meet someone with Austrian roots!
Tammi
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Likewise, Tammi!
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