Help Finding Baptism Record

EmiliaP4

Hello,

I'm trying to confirm if a Mary Reinhardt was born in Ivanda, Hungary (now Romania) about September 27, 1896. But the Iohanisfeld church records of that time aren't available online at FamilySearch. Is there another possible source to find this or any archives to email? I'm not able to view the record at Salt Lake City anytime soon.

Thanks!

Emilia

LaRue Turner

Did she get married? Do you know anything else?

PABulfinch

You could call the SL library for a 20-minute free consultation. Just follow these steps:

1. Click the question mark
2. Click "Community"
3. At the right "Free Research Consultation"
4. Scroll down to "Ancestors in Hungary"
5. Set up an appointment

Good luck to you!!

EmiliaP4

@LaRue Turner

She was married in Chicago, so that wouldn't help. I know her dad was named Johann and her brother George. I've since found a potential uncle (Joseph Reinhardt born Abt. 1841). I might be able to find more based on that.

LaRue Turner

Have you found her on FamilySearch? Her PID is LBMQ-8T7

Name:Mary

Reinhardt

Gender:Female

Birth Date:27 Sep 1896

Same Year

Marriage Date:26 Dec 1916

Spouse:William Deitenbach

Child:Louis; Mathew; Joseph; John; William; Dorothy; Mary Lou; Yvonne Mae

There is a tree on Ancestry that has lots of information on her.

PABulfinch

Looking at the tree on Ancestry, my guess is that you are looking for information about the mother; is that right? And not confirmation of the birth information. Confirmation of the birth information can be found in the Naturalization papers. Here is the link to the Naturalization papers https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/192609076/person/382515960991/facts. We see that on the Passenger list her father came alone, so the mother either did not come or was deceased by this time. Maybe someone can find a marriage certificate for Johann Reinhardt.

Here is the link to the Austro-Hungarian Wiki. https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Austro-Hungarian_Empire_Genealogy. You can find links to records there. Good luck to you.

Julia Szent-Györgyi

@PABulfinch, any chance of a non-paywalled link for the naturalization?

Vital records from places that were in Torontál county are generally a bit sparse online, so I'm surprised there's as much of Jánosfölde (Iohanisfeld) as there is (https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/308920). I'm pretty sure that the film you need (9174929) has been set as "not online" in error, as the most recent record on it is from 126 years ago.

Somewhere in the help center there is (or was) an article on reporting catalog errors, but I cannot for the life of me get it to cough it up tonight. (I gave up when I started using the F-word in my search terms.)

PABulfinch

Julia Szent-Györgyi

Thanks for that image! Yeah, that's nice and clear for the birthdate. (For the place, ah, not so much.) Granted, there's some impossibility in the dates: it says that she arrived in the U.S. in 1919, but that her eldest child was born in Chicago two years earlier. Given this, I think Emilia is entirely right to want to confirm the birthdate (and figure out the birthplace, once and for all) with a better source -- which film/DGS 9174929 very well could be, if 1896, Ivánda, and Roman Catholic are all correct.

I was musing overnight that the other common reason for "not online" is if the material is paywalled on another site, so I did some looking, and found nothing. These registers were filmed in Germany, and I think they're still there somewhere, but Archion's place search finds nothing on any of the place's names. So I think the best next step is getting in touch with the right people at FS to check on the permissions for that film.

Eh, sleep appears to have improved the Help Center's mood; it was willing to cough up the desired article (using exactly the same search terms as the ones that weren't working last night): https://www.familysearch.org/en/help/helpcenter/article/how-do-i-request-a-correction-to-the-familysearch-catalog.

EmiliaP4

@LaRue Turner @PABulfinch @Julia Szent-Györgyi

I haven't checked the discussion for a month now, so thank you all for your efforts! I do know about Mary's life in Chicago (the records you've found are her, and the tree could've been the one I'm collaborating on). I was mainly trying to confirm if the 1911 immigration record I have is correct or not where Ivanda is listed. Chances are that it's correct, but I was looking for proof in today's Romania. She did in fact marry Deitenbach in Chicago in 1916. Austro-Hungarian records are brand new to me, I'll have to look at the help center.

Thanks again!

Emilia