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Darlene Gayle Bills
Darlene Gayle Bills ✭
April 16, 2023 bearbeitet April 16, 2023 in Social Groups

I'm trying to find additional information on my great, great grandmother Carolina Fogel. I have the birth record and baptismal record of her daughter (my great grandmother) Augusta Charlotta - born 24 Feb, 1862 in Heda, Östergötland, Sweden. I have attempted to translate the record to get additional information on Carolina but am a complete novice and not doing very well. Could some one translate the records for me?

Below is a snippet of her birth record which can be found at the following link: https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/28799411?h=78ca54

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This snip is of her baptismal record. I'm particularly interested in what is says after her mother's name and then the witness names and information:

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I was sent this record by a now deceased relative and unfortunately I don't have a link to the document on line.

Any assistance if very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Darlene Bills

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  • Ulrich Neitzel
    Ulrich Neitzel ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 17, 2023 bearbeitet April 17, 2023

    @darlenegaylebills1

    First snippet:

    February 24th - Augusta Charlotta, illegitimate - 1 [female, illegitimate] - Mother Fogel, Carolina, cottager on Wallby

    Second snippet:

    [Birth:] February 24

    [Baptism:] February 26

    [Name:] Augusta Charlotta, illegitimate

    [Parents:] Mother: Cottager (Backstuguhjonet) Widow Carolina Fogel

    [Household examinations:] Wallby page 146

    [Age of the mother:] 42 [years]

    [Witnesses:] Cottager Adolph Andersson and his wife, Anna Lovisa Andersdotter from Tjugby? farm, cottager Sven Jonsson and his wife Lovisa Ridder from Tjugby Vestergård

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  • Norm Baker
    Norm Baker ✭✭✭✭
    April 17, 2023

    I am not sure how much assistance you need or want, but here are some links to household examination records showing Carolina Fogel at the time of Augusta Charlotta's birth and then following Carolina back to 1842:

    1861-1865 = https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0015915_00148#?c=&m=&s=&cv=147&xywh=304%2C4000%2C3973%2C2088

    1857-1861 = https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0015914_00258#?c=&m=&s=&cv=257&xywh=498%2C2585%2C3614%2C1899

    1850-1856 = https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0015913_00275#?c=&m=&s=&cv=274&xywh=453%2C3725%2C3702%2C1945

    1842-1849 = https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0015912_00272#?c=&m=&s=&cv=271&xywh=454%2C3790%2C2929%2C1539 This reports that she and and Pet(ter) Jaensson were married 22 June 1841

    also 1842-1849 = https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0015912_00323#?c=&m=&s=&cv=322&xywh=603%2C1771%2C2440%2C1282

    Marriage Record = https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0015927_00026#?c=&m=&s=&cv=25&xywh=372%2C1437%2C3498%2C1878

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  • Darlene Gayle Bills
    Darlene Gayle Bills ✭
    April 17, 2023

    @Ulrich Neitzel @Norm Baker

    Thank you both so much! This is a wealth of information. I

    Norm, my relative had made reference to the Swedish National Archives which you linked to. Is there information somewhere on how to search the database or do you have to go page by page looking? I would love to find Carolina's birth record. She was born in Vastra Stenby, Östergötland on either May 1st or 11th, 1820.

    Also, would you mind translating the information on the marriage record for me? The bridegrooms name looks to me to be Peter Jaensson (as well as the other records) but I see another record on family search that has him listed as Jansson so not sure I'm looking at it correctly.

    Again, the assistance is very much appreciated.

    Darlene Bills

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  • Ulrich Neitzel
    Ulrich Neitzel ✭✭✭✭✭
    April 17, 2023 bearbeitet April 17, 2023

    The birth record is here: https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0040235_00180#?c=&m=&s=&cv=179&xywh=492%2C2002%2C2774%2C2086

    Translation:

    Carolina from Fogelstad [born] 1. [baptized] 3. May [1820]

    Parents: Life Grenadier Anders Fogel and Anna Stina Carlsdotter 38 år

    Godparents: Farmer Sven Fredrik Jaensson and wife Anna Kajsa Jonsdotter in Fogelstad, farmhand Jonas Jonsson, same place and maiden Brita Stina Jonsdotter, same place

    Comment: Fogelstad is now called Fågelsta: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A5gelsta

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  • Norm Baker
    Norm Baker ✭✭✭✭
    April 17, 2023

    @darlenegaylebills1

    The marriage record reads:

    Column No. 1: Peter Jaensson and Carolina Fogel (entry) No. 4 for 1841.

    Column No. 2: (Date of the marriage) 22 June.

    Column No. 3: Brudg[gum] Tjenstdräng frå Häggestad Rusthåll / Bruden Tienstepiga i Wallby Skattegard = groom (is) a male servant from Häggestad Ruståll / the bride (is) a maid servant in Wallby Skattegard.

    Under her name are the dates that the banns were read: 9, 16 and 23 May 1841.

    Column No. 4: This is the first marriage for both of them.

    Column No. 5: He is 30 years old and she is 21 years old.

    Column No.6: This is probably the price they paid to get married but I am not sure how much it is-12 of something.

    The names Jaensson and Jansson (Jänsson) are the same name. Names were spelled that way the person writing the name thought they should be spelled and there isn't really a wrong or right spelling. See this article on Sweden Personal Names (especially "Interchangeable First Names"): https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Sweden_Personal_Names.

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  • Darlene Gayle Bills
    Darlene Gayle Bills ✭
    April 17, 2023

    @Norm Baker @Ulrich Neitzel

    I can't thank you enough for the assistance you both provided in locating these records!! I've spent the afternoon updating my family tree and adding the source documents to all the individuals. The translations will help me as I continue on in my Swedish ancestry.

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