I had previously found the death record for Maria Catharina Der Baudringhien here: https://www.fami

MegStadtler

I had previously found the death record for Maria Catharina Der Baudringhien here: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S7WF-931V-C9?i=7&cc=2139860&cat=165140.

 I now believe I have found her birth record here: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1H-83YW-D?i=49&cat=75562. However, there appear to be some differences in the names. Can someone tell me if these records are for the same person? Meg

miekehawner1

Yes, they are for the same person.

Ludovici is Latin for Ludovicus or Louis.

And, in Roman Catholic records, you will often see Maria added to a woman's first name.

The last name of the mother, Maserüle or Maseriële, in her death record, does not match the baptism record exactly,

but seems to be very close.

Anitahayes

The age is wrong. The Anna Catharina Josepha from the birth record would have turned 61 in Jun 1839 (unless she was baptized when older then a few days/weeks). Maria Catharina died in Jan 1838 at age 61. Maybe they belonged to another parish/church in the same place?

Adrien Kintziger

@Meg, and Anita.

The records are a match. Dottenijs as place of birth,2 times congruent; and the family name of the mother is also congruent.Only the birth record has the correct way of writing the surname.That is what will come on the identity card and all legal documents.

The death certificate is a much later bad interpretation of the name.

The difference on the dates,...with poor seasonal workers and farms demanding to live there for the whole season,it was not uncommon to wait some months to baptise a child, and secondary,if it was doubtfull a child would survive the first months....

 

Adrie

 

Anitahayes

Looking at the given names and the time difference, they could be sisters. Personally, I would not assume the records are of the same person.

Adrien Kintziger

Anita, i compared the dates again, and i have to agree,they could well be sisters.

The best way to handle this is checking the whole period from the marriagedate.?

Thanks Anita-)

Adrie

MegStadtler

Thank all of you for your assistance. I can not find birth, marriage or death records for the parents in Dottignies. I will look at birth records for a reasonable time frame around 1778 and try to find siblings' records that may provide more answers. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Meg

Adrien Kintziger

Hi ,Meg, Dottignies is the French name for Dottenijs(Flemish); you could try to search

Dottenijs, or even better,(Moeskroen)as Dottenijs is a dependency of Moeskroen ,we say its a 'deelgemeente' and in as such, these municipality's share a common census service.

So it could be under the umbrella of Moeskroen.It is also a 'faciliteitengemeente'

so serviced in both Flemish and French.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouscron

 

I would also add the bordering-municipality's to the list of your desiderata.

Anita took the correct insight , probably.

 

Adrie

 

MegStadtler

Thank you Adrie, I will do that. I did find baptism records for 6 additional children. There latest and easiest to read is here: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1H-83BM-5?i=296&cat=75562. If I am reading this correctly, the mother was native to Warcoing. Can you read the name of the town where her godfather lived? Meg

Adrien Kintziger

Estampuis= Steenput

https://www.google.be/maps/place/7730+Steenput/@50.6876177,3.2198357,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x47c32686d135df37:0x79e6b013225fdb3d!8m2!3d50.7061525!4d3.2649737