Can someone help finish this marriage record, please

Martha Murray

Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1500-1971; https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSWC-5SKT-4?cc=3015626

Peter Reinhard & Anna Katharina Vogel

Hi

Is the first part referring to the license being issued or the date of the marriage? The date is the 9th of September. But below it's the 19th of November.

Thank you!

Im (---------------------------------) 9ten 7ber d.J. No. 17481, heute Nachmittags 2 Uhr; Peter Reinhard: alt 25 Jahr, des Bϋrgers u. Landwirts zu Neuenheim, des dortigen Bϋrgers u. Landwirts Conrad Reinhard u. dessen Ehefrau Johana Rosina Grauer vel po. Grohe ehel. Led. Sohn mit. Anna Katharina Vogel: alt 18 Jahr, des Bϋrgers u. Landwirts zu Neuenheim, Martin Vogel u. dessen Ehefrau Anna Margaretha geb. Bauer ehel. ledi. Tochter. Zeugen: Peter Hess und Conrad Reinhard beide Bϋrgers u. Landwirts zu Neuenheim

Handschuhsheim 19ten 9ber 1834                                        Brecht Pfr

Ulrich Neitzel

@Martha Murray

my editions in bold:

In Gefolge Oberamtlichen Trauscheines vom 9ten 7ber l.J. No. 17481, heute Nachmittags 2 Uhr: Peter Reinhard: alt 25 Jahr, des Bϋrgers u. Landwirths zu Neuenheim, des dortigen Bϋrgers u. Landwirths Conrad Reinhard u. dessen Ehefrau Johanna Rosina Grauer vulgo Grohe ehel. Led. Sohn mit Anna Katharina Vogel: alt 18 Jahr, des Bϋrgers u. Landwirts zu Neuenheim, Martin Vogel u. dessen Ehefrau Anna Margaretha geb. Bauer ehel. ledi. Tochter. Zeugen: 1) Peter Hess 2) Conrad Reinhard beide Bϋrgers u. Landw: zu Neuenheim

Handschuhsheim 19ten 9ber 1834                                        Brecht ev.prot. Pfr

Comment: the date of the "Oberamtlichen Trauschein" (i.e. the civil record which is required for a marriage in church) is 9 September of the actual year (laufenden Jahres l.J.). The marriage date is 19 November 1834.

Robert Seal_1

Hello @Martha Murray

In Gefolge Oberamtlichen Trauscheines vom 9ten 7ber l. J. Nro. 17481, heute Nachmittags 2 Uhr . . .

Comments:

I am not quite sure of the last two letters on "Trauschein" but this word means "marriage certificate".

l. J. = laufenden Jahres = current year.

Note that l. J. can also mean " letzten Jahres" = last year, BUT given the context of this record, I would translate it as "current year" because it is unlikely the couple would have gotten a marriage license more than a year in advance of their marriage.

The certificate to marry was issued on 9 September 1834 and the marriage took place on 19 November 1834.