Did I Find the Correct Records?
I am trying to find my 2nd great grandfather's birth record. I believe he was born around 1850 in Vizovice, to Pavla (or Pavel) Kasparek and Terezia Antonia Haba.
Here is the record I found (see last entry on lower right hand side): https://www.mza.cz/actapublica/matrika/detail/4791?image=216000010-000253-003371-000000-004912-000000-FM-B09953-01600.jp2&
I also found this record (see also last entry on lower right hand side): https://www.mza.cz/actapublica/matrika/detail/4800?image=216000010-000253-003371-000000-004927-000000-00-B07590-00540.jp2 which I think may be the marriage record for Pavel Kasparek and Terezia Antonia Haba from 1845.
Did I find the correct records? If so, any help with translation is much appreciated, especially if the parents of Pavel and Terezia are noted.
Thanks!
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I will work on this today. Back to you in a little while.
Betseylee
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Is your 2nd great-grandfather Johann?
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@Liz Chase https://www.mza.cz/actapublica/matrika/detail/4791?image=216000010-000253-003371-000000-004912-000000-FM-B09953-01600.jp2&, Wisowitzer (Vizovice) Matrika 4912, right side, 5th down,
born 8 May 1850, christened 8 May 1850, House 479, infant: Johann, Catholic, male, legitimate, Father: Paul Kasparek Schmied=blacksmith in Wisowitz, Catholic, Mother: Theresia, daughter of Anton Haba Tuchmacher=draper in Wisowitz and his wife Anna born Prawdis from Wisowitz, Godparents: Thomas Müller and Marina his mother
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https://www.mza.cz/actapublica/matrika/detail/4800?image=216000010-000253-003371-000000-004927-000000-00-B07590-00540.jp2, Vizovice 4927 right side 3rd down, marriage: 7 October 1845, Groom house 95, bride house 243, Groom: Paul Kasparek Schmind=blacksmith, legitimate son of Thomas Kasparek Müllers from Bratrejow (Bratrejov) and his wife Marianna born Paul Chudarek from Lhota?, Catholic, age 22, married, Theres legitimate daughter of Anton Zaba Tüchmacher=draper, in Wisowitz and his wife Anna born Johann Brablik from Wisowitz, Catholic, age 21, legitimate, witnesses: Pawel Müller in Lhota? and Johan Haber Bürger in Wisowitz`
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Thank you so much for all of this, it is very helpful! 😊
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Time for your happy dance!!!
I had one last thought - the two godparents for Frantisek & Katerina's first daughter Anna in 1864 (Dec) were from Policany (south outskirts of Kutna Hora). So I decided to look for a marriage in Policany and lo and behold I found it!!!! https://ebadatelna.soapraha.cz/d/4493/20
17 May 1864 Policany #3 Groom: Frantisek Krulis 22 ? of Kutna Hora, son of Frantisek Krulis familiant of Umonin #26 and his wife Apolena Hovarek of Chvatliny #-
Bride: Katerina 21 (maybe sluzebin = servant) in ?Lo?canech?, legitimate daughter of Jan Suchanek of Trebesice? #27 and his wife Anna Hajek of Kluky #8. Witnesses Frantisek Walenta of rolnik Policany #3 and Frantisek ?Bartunek? of tailor of Policany #3 Good job. Keep up the good work. The mother of the bride has a slightly different spelling of the surname.
https://www.mza.cz/actapublica/matrika/detail/4800?image=216000010-000253-003371-000000-004927-000000-00-B07590-00540.jp2, Vizovice 4927 right side 3rd down, marriage: 7 October 1845, Groom house 95, bride house 243, Groom: Paul Kasparek Schmind=blacksmith, legitimate son of Thomas Kasparek Müllers from Bratrejow (Bratrejov) and his wife Marianna born Paul Chudarek from Lhota?, Catholic, age 22, married, Theres legitimate daughter of Anton Zaba Tüchmacher=draper, in Wisowitz and his wife Anna born Johann Brablik from Wisowitz, Catholic, age 21, legitimate, witnesses: Pawel Müller in Lhota? and Johan HaberBurger in Wisowitz
Betseylee
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Thanks so much for this additional information, but I am a bit confused. Where do Frantisek, Katerina and Anna in 1864 come into the picture? I don't have anyone named Frantisek or Katerina that I know of.
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I have forgotten the research I did so I will try to figure out what I was doing? My only excuse is age.
Betseylee
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LOL! I understand completely! 😄 Thanks!
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I have had to take a trip for family business and I will try to work on this before the end of the week.
Betseylee Browning
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Thank you, Betseylee. I hate to be a pest, but I found 2 other documents for which I could use some translation help. Eventually I will hit a brick wall and won't need help 😄 but in the meantime, I'm very appreciative ☺️
Related to the above info, I think I found the birth record for Marianna Chudarek and the marriage record of Marianna and Thomas Kasparek, but I don't know for sure and can't really read the certificates: https://www.mza.cz/actapublica/matrika/detail/4795?image=216000010-000253-003371-000000-004920-000000-FM-B09956-00080.jp2& (right hand side, second to last entry for Marianna Chudarek's birth record) and https://www.mza.cz/actapublica/matrika/detail/4802?image=216000010-000253-003371-000000-004932-000000-00-B07270-00080.jp2& (first entry for 1820 on right hand side, middle to bottom of page).
Once again, I'm grateful for any and all help reading these documents.
Thank you!
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It might take me a day or two but I will get the translation to you soon.
Betseylee
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@Liz Chace Good work!
Christening: 14 Dec 1802, house 31, infant: Maria Anna, Catholic, female, legitimate, Father: Paul Chüderek Müller, Mother: Barbara Prawdzk, Godparents: Georg Haba Tüchmeister=Master draper from here and Theresia
Marriage: 29 Aug 1820 Groom house 68, Bride house 31, Groom: Thomas Kassparek Müller in Bratřejov Catholic, age 25single, Bride: Marianna daughter of Paul Chüudarek Müller from here, Catholic, age: 17 3/4, witnesses: Franz Küssparek Schmid=blacksmith from here and Fleischhauer=butcher ___ and not Schmid and Franz Habar Tüchmacher=draper
Question: Did you do any to the webinars for the Kurrent Script posted at the top of the main page of this site. It will make your life easier if you do.
Have a great day. Let me know if I can help you in the future.
Betseylee
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@Liz Chace The town in the marriage record I researched some more and believe it is Bratřejov.
Betseylee
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Betseylee, I cannot thank you enough for all of your help. And thank you for mentioning the webinars for learning Kurrent script. I did not know they were available but will definitely be watching them now. 😊
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