Parish? - marriage - 1769 - Jenta&Wolfensberger - location?

Kent Gardiner

Location and Translation: Kaspar Jenta marriage 13 June 1769

Hi, I can't find Kaspar Jenta and Anna Wolfensberger's marriage on this page. Am I missing something? The document is found at the bottom of this page with the indexed version:

https://www.gatheringgardiners.com/2019/12/kaspar-sidler-1741-1790.html

WSeelentag

You are trying to confuse me 😉.

In the text you are writing Kaspar Jenta - the file name gives Rudolf Jenta

The Zürich Marriage Database doesn't find a Rudolf - but Kaspar Jenta & Anna Wolfensberger - getting married in Zürich-St.Peter on 13.06.1768 - so both, date and place, are wrong in the index:

Caspar Jenta, Schulmeister von Etenhausen der Pfarrei Wezikon

Anna Wolfensberger

Kent Gardiner

https://community.familysearch.org/en/profile/WSeelentag Sorry, I changed the name on the file to Caspar or Kaspar. I also uploaded the previous year. The index clearly says Caspar and Anna, however I can't find them on the page. I may be a little rusty on my German names. Thanks for the Marriage Database. I used the Database about five years ago and it is nice to see it again.

WSeelentag

"The index clearly says Caspar and Anna, however I can't find them on the page."

Well - there is no such marriage in Wetzikon - the index is simply wrong - which is telling us that …😮. Wetzikon is (in the St.Peter marriage book) mentioned as place of origin - which might have misled someone not familiar with Swiss genealogy, Is it possible to determine exactly which church record has been indexed?

Often (though not in this case) marriages in another parish will be mentioned "at home" - which most likely would show in the marriage database.

Kent Gardiner

The FS indexed record comes from: "Schweiz, Katholische und Reformiert Kirchenbücher, 1418-1996". That is not helpful because it could be either religion. The record I got from the Zurich archives does not mention the marriage. Zürich Archives, Kaspar Jenta Family Record, Wetzikon E lll 139.21 p 1733. Billeter does not mention a marriage date. Apparently this shows the inaccuracy of depending on indexing.

Thanks for your help with this little problem. Kent

WSeelentag

This register was compiled around 1876 (when the "modern" civil register was started) - likely based on local church records - which didn't mention the marriage in Zürich.

WSeelentag

"The FS indexed record comes from: "Schweiz, Katholische und Reformiert Kirchenbücher, 1418-1996". That is not helpful because it could be either religion."

Sorry - this "reference" is not not helpful - it's completely useless 👿 - does not only not give the religion, but neither the parish - and has a time frame of almost 600 years: that means thousands and thousands of potential church records. It upsets me each time I see it.

Kent Gardiner

https://community.familysearch.org/en/profile/WSeelentag Yes I agree. It is nice having the records but not knowing which religion is not helpful. In my Graben, Germany records they put the records in groups by years and they have symbols for birth, marriage and deaths. These are in one big pile of records. Well, we tried. Thanks, Kent