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Danish Court Documents on line

Kim Reeve
Kim Reeve ✭
August 1, 2023 em Social Groups

Are Danish Court Documents available on line anywhere? Has anyone had success getting full court documents?

Locations: Søndbjerg, Aalborg, or possible Thisted area. This is where the family lived around 1870 (unable to locate some of them in the census, something happened to the family)

I am looking for:

"Separationsdom af 11. Februar 1875", I am not sure if this is a document or not, possibly in Søndbjerg

"Justitsministeriets Skrivelse af 15. Marts 1875 med Tilladelse til at indgaa nyt Ægteskab" probably in Søndbjerg

"Skifteattest af 25. August 1875" possible near Aalborg (we have photos of the family from there during this time)

These documents might provide more of the story of what happened. They are listed in the remarks of GGgrandmother's second marriage which occurred 10 Sept 1875. (Juliemine Caroline Cronholm. She was living in Søndbjerg at the time of her second marriage.

I am trying to uncover what happened to her first husband Soren Christian Christensen (b. 1 May 1826). He died prior to 25 Aug 1875. I found a possible record his death in Aalborg on 31 May 1875 but am not certain of it. He was likely still alive in February 1875 when Juliemine states they were separated because Soren was going to or had gone to America. We have located no emigration records for Soren. By the time Juliemine remarrys in Sept. 1875 it is clear that Soren is dead because she is referred to as a widow and there is mention of the probate.

I sadly do not understand Danish and am therefore dependent on google translate which can be problematic. Any direction or advice would be very appreciated.


Thank you,

Kim

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  • Niels Just Rasmussen
    Niels Just Rasmussen ✭✭✭
    August 7, 2023 editado August 7, 2023

    Census 1860: Thisted Amt, Hillerslev Herred, Kaastrup Sogn, Kaastrup, Et huus, 18, FT-1860, D5306

    Søren Christian Christensen  34  Gift  Smed. huusfader    Hillerslev S., Th. Amt  

    Juliamine Karoline Kronholm  28  Gift  Hans kone    Hjardemaal S., Th. Amt  

    Christian Peter Sørensen  7  Ugift  Deres børn    Her i Sognet  

    Kirstine Sørensen  5  Ugift  Deres børn    Her i Sognet  

    Carl Johan Sørensen  3  Ugift  Deres børn    Her i Sognet  

    Peder Christian Sørensen  1  Ugift  Deres børn    Her i Sognet  

    Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.


    Census 1870: Thisted Amt, Refs Herred, Søndbjerg Sogn, Søndbjerg, Huus, 39, FT-1870, C9201

    Juliemine Caroline Kranholm [misspelling in original]  37  Gift  Huusmoder  Gjordemoder  Hjardemaal s., Thisted amt  

    Kirstine Sørensen  14  Ugift  Datter    Haastrup, Thisted amt  

    Carl Johan Sørensen  12  Ugift  Søn    Haastrup, Thisted amt  

    Peder Christian Sørensen  10  Ugift  Søn    Haastrup, Thisted amt  

    Carl Martinus Sørensen  7  Ugift  Søn    Haastrup, Thisted amt  

    Nicoline Marie Sørensen  3  Ugift  Datter    Sennels sogn, Thisted amt  

    Nielssine Sørensen  1  Ugift  Datter    Søndbjerg, Thisted amt  

    Elvine Sørensen  Under 1 aar  Ugift  Datter    Søndbjerg, Thisted amt  

    Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.

    NB: Gjordemoder [modern danish "Jordemoder" = midwife].


    So Søren Christian Christensen is still at home (and still a smith) at the baptism of the daughter Elvine.


    I found him in the danish "udvandreprotokoller":


    Navn: Christensen, Søren Christian Stilling: Smed

    Alder: 43 Bestemmelsessted: New York

    Kontrakt nr.: 489900 Forevisningsdato: 6/10/1869

    Sidste oph.sogn: ? Sidste oph. amt: Thisted

    Sidste oph.sted: Thyholm, Thisted Bestemmelses land: USA

    Bestemmelses by: New York City Bestemmelses stat: New York State

    Skibsnavn: Guiding Star

    Bemærkninger: BEM: rejst med "Guiding Star" iflg. skibsliste IDkode: D6970C0906

    Source: https://ddd.dda.dk/udvandrer/udvandr_soeg.asp?navn=christensen%2C+s%C3%B8ren+christian&stilling=&alder=&sidste_oph_sted=&s_sogn=&s_oph_amt=&best_by=&best_stat=&best_land=&kontraktens_nr=489900&aar=1869&maaned=


    So the 10th of June 1869 the smith Søren Christian Christensen from Thisted Amt left Copenhagen for New York City on the ship Guiding Star.

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  • Niels Just Rasmussen
    Niels Just Rasmussen ✭✭✭
    August 7, 2023

    Passenger list of the steamship, Guiding Star, from Copenhagen, Denmark to New York City, June 29, 1869 (by June Beverly Barekman):

    Soren Chr. Christiansen. 43 years old. Male. Smith. Denmark.

    Source (Page 25): https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/615735/?offset=0#page=25&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=

    NB: So he arrived in New York City the 29th of June 1869.

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  • Niels Just Rasmussen
    Niels Just Rasmussen ✭✭✭
    August 7, 2023

    "Ruger Brothers (US) 1869-1870 - 7 ships [direct from Copenhagen to New York].

    Ariel, Northern Light, Ocean Queen, Guiding Star, Fulton, Santiago de Cuba, Rising Star."

    Source (page 23): https://m.henningbender.dk/uf/80000_89999/85186/cbaf1f906392073aeb28a625b47925e7.pdf


    The ship Guiding Star left 4 pm. the 11th June 1869 according to this newspaper from the 12th.

    It carried 651 from Sweden, 105 from Denmark, 18 from Slesvig, 8 from Holsten, 15 from Germany, 4 from Norway and 4 from America.

    Those from Denmark came from: 54 from Sjælland, 28 from Nørre Jylland [Jutland except Slesvig-Holsten], 6 from Fyn, 4 from Lolland- Falster and 3 from Bornholm.

    Source: https://www2.statsbiblioteket.dk/mediestream/avis/record/doms_aviser_page%3Auuid%3A6b889b22-18b7-415e-9b42-e59d15b96e44/query/%22guiding%20star%22

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  • Niels Just Rasmussen
    Niels Just Rasmussen ✭✭✭
    August 7, 2023

    New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1891.

    15-29 June 1869.

    S.S. Guiding Star: 29th june 1869: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939V-RM7H-Z?i=538&wc=MX6L-STL%3A165833201&cc=1849782

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  • Niels Just Rasmussen
    Niels Just Rasmussen ✭✭✭
    August 7, 2023

    From 1811-1922 it was obligatory to have gejstlig mægling [clerical mediation] in separation and divorce cases.

    Thisted Amt.

    Mæglingsprotokol i skilsmisse- og separationssager (1857-1970).

    [Currently not online]

    Source: https://www.sa.dk/daisy/arkivserie_detaljer?a=thisted&b=m%C3%A6gling&c=&d=1&e=2023&f=&g=&h=&ngid=&ngnid=&heid=1039710&henid=1039712&epid=&faid=&meid=&m2rid=&side=&sort=&dir=&gsc=&int=&ep=&es=&ed=

    NB: But since Søren Christian Christensen was not present, such a mediation very likely didn't occur.


    Hassing-Refs Herredsfoged.

    Skifteprotokol 1875 B34-5427 - 1880.

    D. 25 August 1875:

    bortløben [run-away] Søren Christian Christensen og hustru jordemoder Juliemine Carline Cronholm.

    Source (page 68, left and right page): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17054249#135417,33121330


    Viet: 10. September 1875 i Søndbjerg Sogn.

    ungkarl Enevold Christian Iversen, født i Søndbjerg 7. April 1827. Opholdssted i Søndbjerg.

    enken jordemoder Juliemine Karoline Kronholm, separeret fra den første mand Søren Kristian Kristensen, bortrejst til Amerika. Opholdssted i Søndbjerg. Født d. 9. Februar 1832.

    [all the dates you gave above + 4. Vielses brev af 2. Marts 1875]


    Census 1880: Thisted Amt, Refs Herred, Søndbjerg Sogn, Søndbjerg By, En Gaard, 26, FT-1880, C3424

    Enevold Christian Iversen  52  Ugift  Indsidder og Dagleier i Agerbruget    Her i Sognet  

    Thorning Christensen  6  Ugift  Hans Søn  [is he?]  Her i Sognet  

    Ole Andersen  49  Ugift  Indsidder i Gaarden, Skræddermester    Her i Sognet  

    Source: Dansk Demografisk Database.


    Født: 22. April 1873 i Søndbjerg Sogn.

    Navn: Thorning Kristensen. [with that surname Enevold Iversen is not the father]

    Mother: jordemoder Juliemine Karoline Kronborg [= mistake for Kronholm].

    Barnefaderen ikke opgivet [so no named father of the child].

    Source (page 48, nr 5): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21585707#390937,74269128


    Død: 23. August 1877 i Søndbjerg Sogn.

    Navn: Juliemine Karoline Kronholm.

    Enevold Iversens hustru. Jordemoder i Søndbjerg. fader Johannes Kronholm i Korsø i Hjardemaal Sogn. født dér. Age 45 years old.

    Source (page 3, nr 4 top): https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21585707#369816,74047172

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  • Kim Reeve
    Kim Reeve ✭
    August 11, 2023

    Thank you so much for your kind help. This is wonderful information.

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