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ljbarizona
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April 10, 2020 April 10, 2020 편집 안 Social Groups
Question about a family

Good Afternoon,

I have come across some records that have me a little confused if you could help me figure this out I would be so grateful.

-So, I am working on a family from Essingen, Aalen, Wurttemberg. This couple Johannes Vogt and Barbara Elsar had two children here and then they moved to Nesslau (which is about 6.4km away walking distance). The couple got married in this area and then added 4 more children to their family. The marriage record I will attach. The parents are the correct parents for Johannes Vogt and Barbara Elsar. There is a location for the marriage listed under the date and I could not read it? Record is found right side of page second from bottom.

-Here is the dilemma-The mother Barbara is listed as Oesler in the birth records of the last 4 children. Could that possibly be just the scribe spelling or hearing the name? I could attach a link for a birth record here as well so you can see this for Barbara. Top left.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSQR-3946-8?i=25&cat=50832

-I found a family book record from Essingen that has all the children on it. The dates are all correct and the children are all on here-the only thing different is the marriage date by which is off by 13 days-so I am wondering if that could have been the bans.

I can also include this family book page link.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSPD-8QML-D?i=718&cat=131305

Thank you so much for helping me sort this out.

Sincerely,

Loretta

 

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  • abcde_bunch1.517176414223846E12
    abcde_bunch1.517176414223846E12 ✭
    April 10, 2020

    I have from the same area Elßer and Oelsser family members in one family. I guess the person who wrote the record just spelled it the way he thought it right. The pronunciation is practically the same. The further you go back in time the more spelling variations there are for the same name.

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  • Fritz Juengling
    Fritz Juengling ✭✭✭
    April 10, 2020

    The alternation between Elßer and Oelsser/Ölsser is easy to explain. There is a very common linguistic trait in Württemberg whereby people unround umlauted vowels, so ö>e (think of the old Wayne Newton song, Danke Schoen, it was schayn. similar trait.)

     

    But the metathesis of l and s is more difficult to explain. I can offer no good linguistic explanation.

     

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  • ljbarizona
    ljbarizona ✭✭
    April 10, 2020

    Thank you very much. So it could be Eslar or Esler as well?

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  • ljbarizona
    ljbarizona ✭✭
    April 10, 2020

    So thankful for your help.

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  • abcde_bunch1.517176414223846E12
    abcde_bunch1.517176414223846E12 ✭
    April 10, 2020

    The name is Elßer or Elsser,

    I don't think it could be Esler or Eslar

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  • ljbarizona
    ljbarizona ✭✭
    April 10, 2020

    Hello

    You are correct that was a typo on my part. I have seen the name Elser before but after I sent in a record to the community site they thought it was Elsar. I will attach her birth record I found today. Thank you so much for your help.

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