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Deanna Louise Jenkins
Deanna Louise Jenkins ✭
March 29, 2022 modificato October 3, 2024 in Social Groups

I’m trying to determine the correct maiden name for one of my Hungarian ancestors. Maria Vilt was the daughter of Paulus Vilt and Theresia (Odri, Odsi, Oder, Odzi). The link below is Maria’s baptism record which then should show other records with the different surname spellings. I really want to have the correct spelling of Theresia’s maiden name for our family genealogy records. I would appreciate any help with this request, Please and Thank you!


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X2S1-HRM?cid=fs_copy

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  • KamillaKovacs3
    KamillaKovacs3 ✭✭✭
    March 29, 2022 modificato March 29, 2022

    @Deanna Louise Jenkins Theresia's surname seems to be "Odni":

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 29, 2022

    I can see arguments either way ('n' or 'r') on Maria's baptism, but on Catharina's, it's very clearly an 'r' (1810 number 139: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939J-T5QW-ND?cc=1743180).

    Here's a search that shows seven children of these parents: https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&q.fatherGivenName=Pal&q.filmNumber=4665276&q.motherGivenName=Teresia&q.motherSurname=O%2A

    The mother's name is also clearly Odri with an 'r' on the baptism of Franciscus (1808 number 115). On Paulus (1822 number 92), it looks like either 's' or 'r'; on Anna (1813 number 37), it's Oder. On Elisabetha (1806 number 103) and Joannes (1805 number 15), I read it as Odry.

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 29, 2022

    For what it's worth, I checked the Surname Tome, and it has entries for Odor and Odri, but nothing like Odni/Odsi/Odzi. Both Odor and Odri derive ultimately from the German(ic) name Ulrich, which was Hungarianized in some places as Odor/Ódor or Hodor/Hódor. (Since the records do not consistently mark vowel length, it's not known which was the usual pronunciation, or whether it varied.)

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  • Deanna Louise Jenkins
    Deanna Louise Jenkins ✭
    March 29, 2022

    Thank you both for your response. It is confusing for me at times to figure out the correct spelling of names in my Eastern European ancestry. I’m very grateful for the help I continue to receive, so thank you to all who help facilitate the process of determining the accuracy of sources/records. Your experience and expertise is much appreciated!

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