Pagina iniziale› Gruppi› Nordic Countries Research

Nordic Countries Research

Partecipa

Title translation from Finish household exam

JohnsonChristopherF
JohnsonChristopherF ✭
October 8, 2019 modificato October 9, 2019 in Social Groups
Title translation from Finish household exam

Can you help me with the titles for several listings in the Finnish household exam - images attached. In the first, we have Olof Mattsson, his wife Anna, Son Olof and then Stina. What is the word preceding her name? Is she a member of the family?

 

In the second, which appears to be a second listing of the same family, further down the page, there are several entries I do not understand. Following Son Johan, there is ?? dotter Anna, with a different birthdate than dotter Anna. What is her title listed? Following her is ?? Justina. What is her title? Then following her is Dotter Anna - is the next line her son Maths??. And what is the title on the last line for Olof?

 

Thanks!

0

Risposte

  • Heidi Kuosmanen
    Heidi Kuosmanen ✭✭✭
    October 8, 2019

    First picture, Stina is son wife, wife to son Olof.​

    0
  • Heidi Kuosmanen
    Heidi Kuosmanen ✭✭✭
    October 8, 2019

    Second picture:

    Son dotter Anna, daughter of Johan

    Son dotter Justina , abbreviated, daughter of Johan

    Dotter Anna​, sister of Johan

    Son son Maths, son of Johan​

    Dräng Olof, farmhand​

    0
  • JohnsonChristopherF
    JohnsonChristopherF ✭
    October 8, 2019

    Thank you for your translations! In trying to make the image large enough to be readable, I did not include the column with birth years, which alters the assumed relationships I think. For instance, Johan , born in 1765, is likely not the Father of Son Dotter Anna born in 1777. Similarly on Son son Maths, born in 1783 (possible, I guess, but no wife listed on the page for Johan - who by the way marries an Anna Andersdotter in 1797) Could these 2 (Son dotter Anna, Son son Maths) be children of Olof and wife Stina from higher up the page?? If so I would have expected them to be grouped as a family as I usually see on Swedish household exams. I don't think you can read the whole page if I just do a screen shot, but you can view at

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS49-GJZR?i=54&personaUrl=/ark:/61903/1:1:QLKS-44K4

    Thanks again!!

    0
  • Heidi Kuosmanen
    Heidi Kuosmanen ✭✭✭
    October 9, 2019

    Thank you for the link. Please attach the link when ever it is possible and viable for others also. It helps in interpretation.

    ​

    Now everything is clear.

    There are parents​ Olof Mattsson and his wife Anna. Their children:

    Olof Olofsson with wife Stina,

    Caisa Olofsdotter,

    Johan Olofsson and

    Anna Olofsdotter.

    ​

    Then children with sonson or sondotter before their name belong to Olof and Stina:

    Anna Olofsdotter,

    Justina Olofsdotter and

    Maths Olofsson.

    ​

    I​ did add their patronymics here which the scriber had left out.

    ​

    In this page, this same family is twice. Upper part is years​ 1776-1781 and lower part is years 1782-1787. Those communion day markings may help you to understand what happened to the family members.

    0
  • JohnsonChristopherF
    JohnsonChristopherF ✭
    October 9, 2019

    Thank you for your help! Can you point me towards how to find household examinations for this family for earlier and later years? (There is apparently a daughter Brita born in 1744, not listed in this record). And I may wish to follow the family of Olof and Stina down a little further.

    Thanks!

    0
  • Heidi Kuosmanen
    Heidi Kuosmanen ✭✭✭
    October 9, 2019

    Here is the previous communion book.

    They lived in a torp of Östanträsk​.

    https://digihakemisto.appspot.com/edit?kuid=9128530&kuvanumero=42&ay=2608679&sartun=312062.KA&atun=324152.KA&amnimeke=Hammarlands+f%C3%B6rsamlings+arkiv&sarnimi=P%C3%A4%C3%A4-+ja+rippikirjat&aynimi=Rippikirjat+1754-1775&ay2=128219

    0
  • Heidi Kuosmanen
    Heidi Kuosmanen ✭✭✭
    October 9, 2019

    Here are all​ available church records for Hammarlands parish:

    https://digihakemisto.appspot.com/index_am?atun=324152.KA&amnimeke=Hammarlands+f%C3%B6rsamlings+arkiv

     

    What you are going to need are those Pää- ja rippikirjat (Main and communion books).

     

    By the inventory catalog the book of births, marriages and deaths from years 1722-1794 got lost around years 1820.

     

    Prior year 1714 you can found marriages (Vihityt), births (Syntyneet) and deaths (Kuolleet) from Syntyneiden ja kastettujen luettelo (Births and christenings)

     

    0
Clear
No Groups Found

Categorie

  • Tutte le Categorie