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I am looking for my great grandfather John William Beacham ,on his Army papers it states he is 18 ye

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  • Adrian Bruce1
    Adrian Bruce1 ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 17, 2020

    If it's any consolation, there's clearly obscuring of something, somewhere going on. But whether it's the birth-place, age on entry to the Army, father's address as Next-Of-Kin, or name (to the extent that he wasn't registered under that name) I have no idea. The obscuring might not even be intentional, he might have firmly believed what he was told...

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  • DoreenPowell
    DoreenPowell ✭
    August 18, 2020

    Thank you Adrian for your help ,it is one that I shall never get to solve I think as I have letters from years ago before any sites became available to search from people who where researching the Beacham/ Beecham family as my grandfather was Beecham and my father Beacham so a lot my cousins are Bee as my grandfather had 11 children . One of my relatives the youngest of my grandfathers brother told me that her mother who was Louisa Short told her that She did visit the family in Stratford Upon Avon ,so I think I will try the history centre there again to find who was living at that address in 1884 .The location is opposite Ann Hathaways Cottage which I have been to and told the there now if it not the same one belongs to the Stratford trust.Once again thank you for trying to solve my mystery Doreen

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  • DoreenPowell
    DoreenPowell ✭
    September 2, 2020

    I have got in touch with the history centre in Stratford Upon Avon a while ago to see if they have records of this property of 1 Cottage Lane Stratford Upon Avon which is opposite Ann Hathaways Cottage in 1884, or to see if the cottage there now is the same one ,and I am still waiting to hear from them

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  • DoreenPowell
    DoreenPowell ✭
    September 3, 2020

    Thank you ,just seen your message .I will try what you suggested

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  • DoreenPowell
    DoreenPowell ✭
    September 12, 2020

    Hi ,not sure how to do this

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  • lorene walker1
    lorene walker1 ✭✭
    September 15, 2020

    What is it that you're not sure how to do? I think your grandfather could very well have been named after a family member.

    I just found a copy of the actual marriage record for John William and Sarah. I made a copy and put it in as a memory. It gives the specific date and place (Erdingtion) which is different from the Civil Registration record. The reason for this is that Erdington is in the Aston Civil Registration District. I went ahead and changed what was put in as the date and place before. I hope that's okay.

    I still haven't found anything on his father, either. Since Adrian Bruce removed the Henry Beacham that was put in as John's father, I looked at https://www.familysearch.org/mapp to see where Christow, Somerset (where Henry was born) was in relation to Kingham, Oxfordshire Erdington and Erdington, Warwickshire (where John was born and married) and they're nowhere near each other, so I think Adrian was right. If I get any more ideas on how to find him, I'll let you know.

     

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  • DoreenPowell
    DoreenPowell ✭
    September 15, 2020

    Yes you are right about his marriage to Sarah Ann Fisher in Erdington my grandfather was born there and I have been to the church where most of the Fisher family including my great grandmother Sarah are buried.John William is buried in Witton cemetery in 1933 I have been there too ,but do not know where his father Henry is buried all I know that he was in Stratford Upon Avon in 1884 so without his mother it is a mystery.

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  • lorene walker1
    lorene walker1 ✭✭
    September 15, 2020

    There's a Civil Registration record for a Henry Beauchamp in the March quarter of 1843 in Shipston on Stour which is 8.42 miles from Chipping Norton and 10.57 miles from Stratford on Avon. It's a stretch but may be a possibility. There's a christening record and an 1851 census record for what appears to be the same person (same place, birth year, and parents' names) and a death record. There are also some "gaol" (jail), discharge, and workhouse records for a Henry Beacham who would have been born in 1837, but they're in Somerset, so that's probably not him. I found all of these in Ancestry.

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  • DoreenPowell
    DoreenPowell ✭
    September 15, 2020

    It could be that they came from Somerset as there are so many Beacham families from there .There is a John William Beacham in Axbridge Somerset born 1866 could this be him

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