I am trying to confirm if these two persons are same
In family search tree- Elis Hane GSD2-NBT and L2TY-5W1. The 2nd Elis I have traced from Sölvesborg house exam vol. 20 to move in 1873 to Malmo. Having trouble getting from there to Östra Degernas, Karlskoga 1856-60 vol 34, if these2 are same. Any suggestions or help much appreciated. Pg 342 in vol 34. Deniese
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Oops. Correction. 1st Elis is GSDZ-NBT.
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Ok, I traced the 1. Elis from Karlskoga, he moved a lot 😃
Elis Hane moved from Karlskoga to Visnum 11.10.1861
Karlskoga kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/10513/A I/37 (1861-1865), bildid: C0002077_00479, sida 528
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0002077_00479
In Visnum, Crontorp, p. 99
Visnums kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/VA/13623/A I/20 (1861-1865), bildid: C0039294_00116, sida 99
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0039294_00116
Moved to Nysund 20.10.1862 p. 417
Nysunds kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11131/A I/17 b (1861-1865), bildid: C0002452_00362, sida 417
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0002452_00362
Moved to Nyköping 1863 p. 249 to his farther’s brother family(Carl Hane b.14.5.1815)
Nyköpings S:t Nicolai (före 1953 Nyköpings Västra) kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder för Nyköpings Västra församling, SE/ULA/11128/A I a/16 a (1861-1865), bildid: C0005737_00109, sida 249
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0005737_00109
Nyköpings S:t Nicolai (före 1953 Nyköpings Västra) kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder för Nyköpings Västra församling, SE/ULA/11128/A I a/16 b (1861-1865), bildid: C0005738_00037, sida 946
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0005738_00037
Nyköpings S:t Nicolai (före 1953 Nyköpings Västra) kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder för Nyköpings Västra församling, SE/ULA/11128/A I a/16 b (1861-1865), bildid: C0005738_00032, sida 939
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0005738_00032
Moved to Öster 30.10.1865 p. 154
Nyköpings Alla Helgona (före 1989 Nyköpings Östra) kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11129/A I/17 (1861-1865), bildid: C0005828_00138, sida 154
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0005828_00138
Nyköpings Alla Helgona (före 1989 Nyköpings Östra) kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/ULA/11129/A I/18 (1866-1870), bildid: C0005829_00128, sida 151
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0005829_00128
Moved to Kristianstad 1866
Kristianstads stadsförsamlings (Heliga Trefaldighets) kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/LLA/13214/A I/18 (1865-1871), bildid: C0060755_00178, sida 1924
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0060755_00178
Moved to Malmö June 1867, With Carl Hane again
Malmö Caroli kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/MSA/00553/A I/42 (1865-1869), bildid: C0067486_00038, sida 33
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0067486_00038
Malmö Caroli kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/MSA/00553/A I/77 (1869-1878), bildid: C0067522_00065, sida 80
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0067522_00065
Moved to Jerusalem 1869
Malmö Caroli kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/MSA/00553/A I/72 (1868-1877), bildid: C0067517_00254, sida 308
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0067517_00254
(Carl Hane in previous page)
Moved to Möllebacken 1870
Malmö Caroli kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/MSA/00553/A I/71 (1868-1873), bildid: C0067516_00311, sida 392
https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0067516_00311
Got married 19.4.1873 with Ingrid Catharina Svensson
Same man!
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Oh my! I am sure it won't be in this lifetime but I will have an angel hug for you in the next. The move to Jerusalem will be interesting to find but wondering if going the other direction with the 2nd Elis will help. I still think they are same person but question the place of birth. The 2nd Elis in sources the 2 listed exams say Virserum, karlstad. The 4 exams in tasks for him say Virserum, Kalmar. According to wiki there is a Virserum, Kalmar but not karlstad. I understand karlstad county is actually Varmland- if I am reading correct- but the exams are quite clearly written. Elis #1 born in Varmland would make sense. Kalmar does not. ?????
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You probably did not notice that I had edited my answer, problem solved, they are same Elis Hane! 0 -
Yes, 2nd Elis sources say Virserum, Karlstad län. Virsenum is a misspelling from Visnum and Värmland county has been called sometimes as Karlstad county because Karlstad is a capital city of Värmland county.
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Did you look at the exams listed in the tasks for 2nd Elis. The 3 most recent say Kalmar. Was that error on part of person taking down info? Can you tell me what the Roman numerals are about- like the ones next to Jerusalem? Thank you thank you. I will keep working on other person you had helped with and will hope you have time to assist others and have time for your own family. Deniese
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In those Record Hints, Elis Hane is correct person, but that clergy who had written the information, had written the birth place wrong. At first Visnum had changed to Virserum, Karlstad län and then some one had corrected also the county from Karlstad to Kalmar. As you had noticed that there is a real place called Virserum and it belongs to Kalmar county and that clergy maybe thought that someone had written Karlstad instead of Kalmar, quite similar names.
Roman numbers before Jerusalem, they are address numbers, they tell you the block or plot, where they lived. Jerusalem is the city district of Malmö.
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Thank you for the explanation on Roman numerals and for pointing out that Jerusalem is in malmö. More to learn every day. Have a great day.
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