How old can a man could be?
https://www.familysearch.org/de/tree/person/details/LV1P-BXR
Einwand der Quellenbewertung
Die Datumsangaben zur Geburt und zum Tod dieser Person deuten auf einen Tod im Alter von 93 hin, was über dem üblichen Alter liegt.
Das muss überprüft werden und es gibt keine kostengünstige Möglichkeit, das zu tun. In einer Zeit, in der ich nicht weiß, ob ich morgen mir noch was zu essen kaufen kann und meine Heiz- und Stromkosten bezahlen kann sind die Kosten beim Standesamt illusorisch.
Objection to source evaluation
The dates of birth and death for this person indicate that they died at the age of 93, which is above the usual age.
This needs to be verified, and there is no cost-effective way to do so. At a time when I don't know if I'll be able to buy food tomorrow and pay my heating and electricity bills, the costs at the registry office are illusory.
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Regardless of the cost of verification, I'm not sure that the Quality score should be noting high age as a potential problem, unless there is a specific reason to do that in a particular case.
I had a look at some high-aged entries in my own tree and checked on the FamilySearch tree to see how the Quality system was handling this, and note the same message for (example) ID: GHVN-GJL. I see there's no sources given for this death yet, so I'll add some and see whether that changes the scoring.
But to be clear: I have in my own data plenty of people with ages well into the late 90s…
Edited to add: I had already noted the date of death for Anthony Bainbridge (at 102 years) ID: GHVN-GJL and given the reason (newspaper notice) but not yet added sources. The civil registration of the death is fortunately available in the FamilySearch, and on adding this indexed source the "above the usual age" message in the Quality system disappears. I should note, however, that the source only gives the quarter in which the death is registered (not the date of death itself) and his date of birth, so strictly speaking it is not evidence of that specific date. The newspaper report is not indexed in FamilySearch (although it is freely available).
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No, the civil registration is not completely available in Germany on Familysearch. There are laws forbidding datas of deseased people younger than 120 years. So I have to buy the document. And since the Corona debacle the inflation rate in our country is gallopping without income is rasing. So I can no more pay anything, especially not these documents.
I just found another case of an old aged man GVFD-WCY. Again the source evaluation is objecting the high age.
Acutally the source evaluation is right. I have to give a source. That has nothing to do with the high age. There is a need of a source nevertheless. But I am not able to buy the needed documents.0 -
@Bettina58 Thanks for your message!
Our rules for warnings are constantly changing. We give the warning about high age to encourage people to double-check their records and ages before dismissing the warning. There are definitely cases where people live outside the normal range, but we ask people to check when we see they fall out of the normal range, because frequently it's an error.
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Ja, das ist ok. Sowas sollte man ruhig nochmals überprüfen. Gerade vor einer Stunde habe ich einen Fall gefunden, dass die Qualitätsbewertung einen ernsthaften Datenkonflikt beanstandet hat. Eine Frau hat zu kurz hintereinander zwei Kinder bekommen. Es war durchaus noch im Rahmen des Möglichen, weil es ja auch Frühgeburten gibt. Aber bei der Überprüfung der Daten finde ich außer dem Ortsfamilienbuch keine Primärquelle, die diese Geburt belegt hätte, weder im Kirchenbuch noch in der Zivliregistratur. Und ein dickes Dankeschön an die Programmierer. Ohne die Qualitätsbewertung hätte ich das nicht bemerkt.
Yes, that's fine. It's always good to double-check things like that. Just an hour ago, I found a case where the quality assessment flagged a serious data conflict. A woman had two children in quick succession. It was still within the realm of possibility, because premature births do happen. But when checking the data, I couldn't find any primary source other than the local family register that would have documented this birth, neither in the church register nor in the civil registry. And a big thank you to the programmers. Without the quality assessment, I wouldn't have noticed this.1
