Translation Request Hungarian Civil Deathe Record
Please help with translation of this death record . The deceased is Mihaly Szilagyi, d. 12 Oct 1915. Is there anything in this record that reveals the deceased's parents, village, whether he is married, name of spouse.
Thank You
URL:https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99QF-SZZQ?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A6V1P-XP1S&action=view&lang=en&groupId=
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From a brief review, Mihaly Szilagyi was a soldier (huszar) and the information next to that may give his regiment. He was 24 years old. Entries 222 and 224-227 appear to all be soldiers whose death dates differed significantly from the recording date (March 8). The long note to the right, as translated by Google Lens, indicates that this is the death of a soldier who died of a disease during a campaign as recorded based on death data provided to the recorder. An experienced translator could make that translation more precise.
What do you know about this person already? Are you trying to differentiate him from other Mihaly Szilagyis to see if he is the one that fits your tree?
I have not worked with much about Hungary proper, but I have worked a little bit on Slovak military information related to peasants who were drafted in Western Slovakia in roughly the Victorian period. The Slovaks were required to be part of the military controlled by Hungary, so operated under Hungarian military rules. If drafted, they tended to marry a bit later than 24 years old. They needed to complete a standard-length military stint and then be released to be reservists before they could marry. About age 27-28 if memory serves. If they had children in their home village before they were able to marry (e.g. as teens before shipping out or maybe on home leave), these children might have been recorded as illegitimate in the home village, and slightly possibly a note made about the identity of their father. If that much detail was present, they could also have later been legitimized with a note made on their birth record.
Genealogists who are interested in Austro-Hungarian military history often refer people to Carl Kotlarchik's website. His website explains how to identify where military units recruited based on home village location.
https://ahmilitary.blogspot.com/
I don't see wife or family or home village information in here, to the best of my limited ability to scan this record. There aren't parents in the parent column. His cause of death was tuberculosis (tüdővész = tuberculosis, phthisis). I wonder about the religion (column marked Vallasa). A Jewish person is noted as Izr. (record 227). Another is noted as some variety of Catholic (kath.) - not sure if Greek Catholic or Roman Catholic. So someone might know how to interpret the "Ref" or "Res" in the religion column.0 -
Here is some relevant information from Carl Kotlarchik's website:
The description “cs és kir” army is the Hungarian abbreviation for “császár és kiraly” or the Kaiser & King’s Army (k.u.k). This was the joint army and not a homeland army. Those are the words after huszar under Mihaly's name. Plus the number 3. Which might be his regimental number.
"Hungarian Military District Conscription Registers
Conscription registers for many former Hungarian military districts are available at the Hungarian Archives and they are also available on microfilm from the Family History Center. They are listed under the title: Katonai nyilvántartási jegyzék. These documents record the eligibility of men in each district to serve in the army. They also provide personal information about each man. The records cover various timeframes from as early as the 1750s to 1918. But the years covered for any particular district are quite variable. Included in the Hungarian Archives are seven districts that are now part of Slovakia. Additional records for other districts in Slovakia can be found at their regional archives but these have not been filmed by the LDS.
Headings used in the military district lists of men's eligibility for conscription
- Name of village
- Registration number
- Surname and given name
- Birth year
- Place of birth
- Religion and marital status
- Ability to read
- Ability to write
- Ability to plan a musical instrument
- Sports abilities
- Profession
- Name of parent or next of kin
- House number and village where the individual resides
- Final statements
- Chest size
- Height
- Temporary exemption from service
- Legally raised claims for allowable allowances for (deferment or unsuitability for service) (18 & 19 refer to the decisions of the commission)
- The preferred location for conscription
- Reporting date, the military unit assigned, the army reserve designation and ???
- Comments"
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Thank you for this translation, I have a grand uncle, Mihaly Szilagyi b. 28 Sep 1889 in Csany, Abauj-Torna Hungary, currently know as Cana, Kosice, Slovakia. I thought this could possibly be his death record. I guess I will have to search for his military records to find out if this death record is that of my grand uncle.
A Ref. in the religion column stands for Reformed or Evangelical religion.
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You're welcome. I believe from looking at another one of your links that there were multiple people with the name Mihaly Szilagyi. That makes your task difficult.
A few years back, I used Carl Kotlarchik's instructions below to research the WW1 participants who were associated with the town in Western Slovakia where my family originated. I was able to find some townspeople's names. There is also a WW1 monument in the town I am researching, listing the names of those who died in military service. I was able to match some of the death records found through sources below with the monument engravings.
Perhaps the information below will help you further. If the links below are bad, visit the main website I linked above to see if Carl has updated them on his live website.
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Records for World War I
Although World War I personnel records for many regions of the Empire have been lost, information about soldiers who fought in this war can be obtained from several sources.
The National Library of the Czech Republic has begun to digitize many of the records in their library and put them on line including casualty reports from WWI. There are three types of these records that provide information about a soldier. Here is an example of the records for a wounded soldier taken from the periodical
Nachrichten über Verwundete und Kranke ausgegeben am 28/12.1914
(News of wounded and sick issued on December 28, 1914 ).
Janos Kotlarcsik, Infantry, k.u. Line Infantry Regiment No. 16, Maschine-gewehrabteilung 3 (machine gun section), (born in) Gicze, Rozsnysi, Samb, in 1887, shot in the chest, recuperating in Reichenberg (Hospital in Bohemia). Note that IR16 was a Landwehr Regiment (k.u.) called the Royal Hungarian Army and not the joint Austro-Hungarian k.u.k Army.
The second type of army records published by the Czech Library are the lists of soldiers killed or captured. Here is an example of the records for a captured soldier from the Verlustliste ausgegeben am 1.7.1915 (Casualty list issued on July 7, 1915).
Kepics Anton, Infantry, IR66, 2nd Company, (born in) Szinna, Zemplen County, Hungary in 1889, prisoner of war (kriegsgefangener), (captured in) Niš, Serbia.
Both of these types of records can be found by using a name search at the Czech web site:
http://kramerius.nkp.cz/kramerius/Welcome.do
Searches can be done by the name of a soldier, by the name of a town or combinations of both which is useful in locating someone with a common surname.
A second digital database containing the Verlustliste can be found at the Digital State Library of Upper Austria found at this url:
http://digi.landesbibliothek.at/viewer/browse/periodika.verlustliste*/-/1/CURRENTNOSORT/-/
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