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James Tanner
James Tanner ✭✭
May 26, 2024 edited December 4 in Social Groups

I have heard some comments that eventually, the CET would be able to share data back and forth with the FamilySearch Family Tree including the possibility of reserving and printing temple ordinances. One of the main reasons for having a personally owned family tree such as the CET, is the concern by some users about the changes made to the FamilySearch. The idea with the CET is, in part, to create a safe haven for those concerned users. The shared data issue should not include a defacto way of changing good information in the FamilySearch Family Tree with bad information from an old GEDCOM file upload or any other bad information. A better AI aided duplicate detection program would not only detect duplicates in the FamilySearch Family Tree but could also prevent the sharing of bad information with good. An AI chatbot or even just an AI search could capture potential duplicate entries when someone tries to move a new entry into the Family Tree and alert the person to either reconsider the entry or stop it altogether. If the AI chatbot had information showing the patterns of families in the Family Tree, then it could stop a large percentage of the changes and duplicates before they were entered into the Family Tree. The CET should not end up being a way to upload duplicate GEDCOMs in the FamilySearch Family Tree. Perhaps uploads to the Family Tree could be limited to entries that were not duplicates but also had sources attached. Stop or Qualify entries.

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  • Robert Kehrer
    Robert Kehrer ✭✭✭
    May 30, 2024 edited October 10, 2024

    We are working on features that will compare CET vs FamilyTree and inform the user when there are high confidence matching persons across the two tree systems. User will then be presented with a tool (similar to SourceLinker) that will allow the user to align the family from the CET with the corresponding family in the Family Tree. They will evaluate whether the families do indeed represent the same persons. They will then will be enabled to resolve any discrepancies between them by copying data events notes and sources between the trees as required

    The matching algorithms used in this tree 2 tree matching and in the Possible Duplicates flow are already pretty advanced and continually being improved. They can be tuned to show varying levels of match confidence based on user and business needs. Ultimately users will need to determine if a matched person is really the same real historical person or not.

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  • James Tanner
    James Tanner ✭✭
    May 31, 2024 edited October 10, 2024

    Currently, the FamilySearch.org Family Tree is being deluged with millions of names from record extraction projects. This is another reason people are bailing from using the Family Tree. I hope you are right about the duplicate flow from additional CET.

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  • AnneLoForteWillson
    AnneLoForteWillson mod
    November 17, 2024

    Would this tree-2-tree work like it does in the Genealogies section, where you are looking at a single individual and comparing the information in both trees on just that one person?

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  • Robert Kehrer
    Robert Kehrer ✭✭✭
    November 18, 2024

    It will likely work similar to how SourceLinker works today. It will align the target individual, as well as that person's spouse, parents, children with the corresponding persons in both trees. It will allow you to see and evaluate all the sources that are present on the persons in both trees. It will allow you to copy over persons, sources and vital data from the other tree into your tree. It will place a reference on the persons copied so that you will know where they came from (the other tree).

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  • Robert Kehrer
    Robert Kehrer ✭✭✭
    November 19, 2024

    Ann, James,
    I expect that within the next week or so we'll be ready with our user experience designs to get some direct user guidance on our designs. If you are willing, I'll reach out to each of you and arrange video conferences to show what we have.

    -Robert

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  • James Tanner
    James Tanner ✭✭
    November 20, 2024

    Robert

    Yes, we are happy to help. Next week is Thanksgiving so probably earlier in the week would work.

    James and Ann

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  • Robert Kehrer
    Robert Kehrer ✭✭✭
    November 20, 2024

    Thanks for the willingness. I spoke with our UX designer and, like many next week will be a vacation week. We'll plan on arranging something for the week following .

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  • kerryallan
    kerryallan ✭
    February 17

    can you email your tree to someone else, how is this done, if so, is that person able to access your account and change your tree, thanks BILL

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  • mynameistk
    mynameistk ✭✭✭
    February 17

    @kerryallan Thank you for your discussion and testing early release CET. Since your discussion involves an entirely separate issue, I am going to move it to a new discussion. You cannot email a tree from FamilySearch, nor can you download a GEDCOM file. The only persons able to access your CET would be those persons that you invite and share access with. That person is then able to access your CET and make changes to it. For this reason, it is important to choose wisely those persons you invite to your tree and the level of access given to each. Thank you again for your feedback and time.

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  • mynameistk
    mynameistk ✭✭✭
    February 17

    @kerryallan The new discussion can be followed at:

    https://community.familysearch.org/discussion/173469/sharing-cet-and-access-with-others
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  • mynameistk
    mynameistk ✭✭✭
    December 4

    Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We’re committed to resolving as many issues as possible, and we’re closing this discussion for now. If you or others encounter this issue again, please start a new discussion and include relevant information such as your operating system, browser, URLs, and screenshots if available.  

    We appreciate your support and engagement. Please don’t hesitate to reach out with any future questions or concerns.  

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  • mynameistk
    mynameistk ✭✭✭
    December 4

    The tree2tree feature is now in production.

    Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We’re committed to resolving as many issues as possible, and we’re closing this discussion for now. If you or others encounter this issue again, please start a new discussion and include relevant information such as your operating system, browser, URLs, and screenshots if available.  

    We appreciate your support and engagement. Please don’t hesitate to reach out with any future questions or concerns.  

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