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Help confirming father of Sophia Albertina who was born out of wedlock

G Haux
G Haux ✭✭
September 9, 2023 in Social Groups

Sophia Albertina was born out of wedlock on 12 November 1839. The father was named but I need help confirming if I found the correct father. This is her birth record

https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0006255_00140

I think her father is Hans Jacob Ihrman, born 1806. Shown on this record.

https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0006228_00210

Here she is with her mother, Maria Christina Andersdotter, born 1813, at the time of her birth

https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0006181_00447


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  • Ulrich Neitzel
    Ulrich Neitzel ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 9, 2023

    @Haux

    The birth record names as the alledged father the "nu aflidne Faktoriarbetaren Ihrman i Carl Gustafs stad", i.e. the now deceased workshop worker Ihrmann in Carl Gustaf city (Eskilstuna). Actually, his death record is found here:

    https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0006256_00262

    He died on 21 Sep 1839, just under two months before the birth of Sophia Albertina of fallandesot (epilepsy) at the age of 32 years, 3 months, and 16 days. So he is identical to the one you found in the clerical record. If he is actually the father can not be determined from the documents of course.

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  • G Haux
    G Haux ✭✭
    September 10, 2023 edited September 10, 2023

    @Ulrich Neitzel Thank you.

    This "family" was merged into a person I worked and now I am trying to correct information. On FamilySearch Maria Christina Andersdotter is show as being married to Mr Ihrman in 1838. I believe they read what is in the move in column as Lindesberg 39 Gift p.13. I did look for a marriage record but I did not find anything. I believe it refers to where she lived in Lindesberg but I have unable to find that record. Can you help me to find where she was living in Lindesberg?

    Please help me clarify the move in column for both Maria Christina and Hans Jacob

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  • G Haux
    G Haux ✭✭
    September 10, 2023 edited September 10, 2023

    @Ulrich Neitzel Maria Christina Andersdotter is shown as being born in Räm. Is that actually Ramsberg, Örebro? I can not find a parish by that name

    The same questions for Han Jacob Ihram. The clerical record shows him as being born in Rosl. Bro

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  • Ulrich Neitzel
    Ulrich Neitzel ✭✭✭✭✭
    September 11, 2023

    @Haux

    Maria Christina Andersdotter moved in from Lindesberg on 4 Nov 1833 (moving-in record #186/33):

    https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0006244_00065

    She moved to "Frist[aden] Pen ad Lundberg". For Fristaden see: https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315611648-10/eskilstuna-fristad-beginnings-u-ryd%C3%A9n):rban-experiment-g%C3%B6ran

    "Pen ad Lundberg" is probably an address, but I don't know how to interpret fully.

    I looked for a moving-out record in Lindesberg but to no avail. I don't understand her birthplace either.

    Hans Jacob Ihrman moved in from Stockholm on 13 Dec 1837 (moving-in record # 484/37):

    https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0006244_00171

    He moved to "Fristaden hos Pr? Hellberg".

    His birthdate is given as 6 Jun 1807 in Roslags-Bro. However, there is no birth record for this date in the parish of Roslags-Bro. But there is a Hans Jacob born 26 May1807. Could this be han? The surname Ihrman does not appear.:

    https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0048553_00051


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  • G Haux
    G Haux ✭✭
    September 11, 2023

    @Ulrich Neitzel

    Yes, this is the correct birthdate for Hans Jacob.

    https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0048532_00144

    Thank you. I am still working on Maria Christina.

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