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Is this the same Theresia?

James Griffiths_3
James Griffiths_3 ✭
May 10, 2023 edited May 10, 2023 in Social Groups

I've been given answers to some questions but they lead to more questions. Here is the marriage of Karol Peter to Theresia (Teresa) Waltowska. Also what could be her birth and her parent's marriage. Is it possible, by reading these to see if it is the right Theresia and parents?

Karol and Theresia wedding.jpg Karol and Theresia wedding eng.jpg


Birth: 1818: Archivní vademecum SOA v Litoměřicích (soalitomerice.cz)

Possible marriage of parents: Archivní vademecum SOA v Litoměřicích (soalitomerice.cz)

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  • paritchie
    paritchie ✭✭✭✭
    July 14, 2023

    Leaving a comment to put at the top of Discussions

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  • paritchie
    paritchie ✭✭✭✭
    August 5, 2023

    Leaving a comment to put at the top of Discussions

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  • James Griffiths_3
    James Griffiths_3 ✭
    August 23, 2023

    Can anyone help me with the birth of Theresia (Teresa) Waltowska, her parents, etc.?

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  • Betseylee Browning
    Betseylee Browning ✭✭✭
    August 28, 2023

    Sorry for the delay. The website is not working right at the moment. I will look into this in the morning. By help do you mean translating the records listed above?

    Betseylee Browning

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  • James Griffiths_3
    James Griffiths_3 ✭
    September 9, 2023

    Hello Betseylee

    I would like a translation of the two links: Possible birth and possible marriage of parents.

    The Polish /Russian one has been translated.

    I hope to find out if "our" Teresia (Teresa) is the same one in the possible birth.

    According to the Polish one Teresa's parents were: Josef Waltorska and Agata Biczman.

    I believe she was born in Zeidler, Schluckenau, Böhmen,

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  • Betseylee Browning
    Betseylee Browning ✭✭✭
    September 10, 2023

    I will look into this tomorrow. What source shows the birthplace of Zeidler? Have you search in Zeidler for her christening record?

    Betseylee Browning

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  • James Griffiths_3
    James Griffiths_3 ✭
    September 10, 2023

    Hello again. If I remember rightly, Zeidler is mentioned in the marriage certificate of Karol Peter and Theresa. First post in this thread.

    Have a nice weekend.

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  • Betseylee Browning
    Betseylee Browning ✭✭✭
    September 12, 2023

    I am not seeing the same people as in the marriage record you posted. Is this your family in the marriage record for sure? The birth record is for Theresia born 21 Dec 1818 and Christened January, House 198, the father is Joseph Weltrusky and his father is Mathias Weltrusky, in Raudnitz and Anna ?

    Mother is Agnes daughter of deceased Franz Ant. Findel Hausler=peasant cottager? in Zeidler #2, and Agnes born Pirtschmann? # 119 Zeidler

    It is a hard record to read. It does not appear to be the same bride as in your first marriage record. The second marriage record is for Agnes Findel and the soldier Joseph Waltroska son of Mathias.

    I hope this helps. I looked around for the people in the first marriage but did not have time to look very far.

    Betseylee Browning

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  • James Griffiths_3
    James Griffiths_3 ✭
    September 12, 2023

    Thank you.

    Teressa in the first marriage is our family in Poland my wife's gg grandmother. Born in 1818. The name of her mother could have been recorded wrong, it happens a lot in Polish records.

    The birth here could be correct.

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  • Betseylee Browning
    Betseylee Browning ✭✭✭
    September 12, 2023

    I have not delved into Polish records. Is your family on the FamilySearch tree? If so, do you have a pin number. I will try to translate the 2nd marriage record.

    Betseylee

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  • Betseylee Browning
    Betseylee Browning ✭✭✭
    September 13, 2023

    Another thought: Look for any siblings christenings and marriages to see if the names the same.

    Betseylee

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  • James Griffiths_3
    James Griffiths_3 ✭
    September 13, 2023

    That's the trouble, I haven't found any other information except for the Polish wedding and those two links I added.

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  • James Griffiths_3
    James Griffiths_3 ✭
    September 13, 2023
    https://community.familysearch.org/discussion/comment/527024#Comment_527024

    The tree on FamilySearch was hijacked by some other relation a few years ago so I haven't added anything there. They messed it up. I have my tree on Tribalpages.com

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  • James Griffiths_3
    James Griffiths_3 ✭
    September 14, 2023

    Hello again. I looked through my papers and the following names have come up as possible siblings to Theresa: Franz (Weltrutsky) b. 1813 and Joseph (Weltrufskÿ) b. 1816, both born in Zeidler, Schluckenau.

    I have no idea if these are her brothers.

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  • Betseylee Browning
    Betseylee Browning ✭✭✭
    September 14, 2023

    They are the brothers to Agnes daughter of deceased Franz Ant. Findel Hausler=peasant cottager? in Zeidler #2, and Agnes born Pirtschmann? # 119 Zeidler. Franz is on image 80 and Joseph on image 107.

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  • James Griffiths_3
    James Griffiths_3 ✭
    September 19, 2023

    Sorry, I'm getting mixed up here 😁

    Who is this for? Birth: 1818: Archivní vademecum SOA v Litoměřicích (soalitomerice.cz)

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  • Betseylee Browning
    Betseylee Browning ✭✭✭
    September 19, 2023

    left side 2nd down Theresia

    The birth record is for Theresia born 21 Dec 1818 and Christened January, House 198, the father is Joseph Weltrusky and his father is Mathias Weltrusky, in Raudnitz and Anna ?

    Mother is Agnes daughter of deceased Franz Ant. Findel Hausler=peasant cottager? in Zeidler #2, and Agnes born Pirtschmann? # 119 Zeidler

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  • James Griffiths_3
    James Griffiths_3 ✭
    September 19, 2023
    https://community.familysearch.org/discussion/comment/527288#Comment_527288

    Aren't they named Weltrufskÿ? How can they be brothers to Agnes?

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  • Betseylee Browning
    Betseylee Browning ✭✭✭
    September 19, 2023

    My bad. I should have said brothers to Theresia. I am sorry. I have not been feeling very well and must have been tired.

    Betseylee Browning

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  • James Griffiths_3
    James Griffiths_3 ✭
    September 19, 2023

    No problem. I get confused a lot here 😉 I hope you are not to ill. I'll be needing help with Teresias parents and grandparents 🤣

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  • Betseylee Browning
    Betseylee Browning ✭✭✭
    September 19, 2023

    I can help you. I just get tired easily lately. I should not have had the foot dr. insert 3 cortisone shots in my foot. It was not good for my diabetes. If you are patient with me, we will try to find them. I am helping two other people so I am exercising my mind.

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  • James Griffiths_3
    James Griffiths_3 ✭
    September 19, 2023

    Just take your time. I'm just happy for the help. Are you Dia 1 or 2? I'm 2, so only on tablets.

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  • Betseylee Browning
    Betseylee Browning ✭✭✭
    September 19, 2023

    Type 2. I use Trulicity usually. My Dad and three siblings have it too.

    Betseylee

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