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Bernard Girma
Bernard Girma ✭✭
June 27, 2022 in Social Groups

I am not familiar with researching Norwegian databases. I need some help finding birth documents for 2 people.

Josephine Andersen born 9 April 1880 in Farsund

Christian Christensen born 20 July 1881 Farsund

Both were married on the 21 July 1906 in Chicago Illinois.


Thanks in advance for any help I can get.

Bernard Girma

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  • Siv Digernes Collett
    Siv Digernes Collett ✭✭✭
    July 10, 2022 edited July 10, 2022

    You might want to learn how to use the Norwegian Digitalarkivet. This is a very good starting point where you will learn how to search Norwegian records:

    https://www.arkivverket.no/en

    Best,

    Siv Collett

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  • AudMarit
    AudMarit ✭✭
    August 17, 2022

    @Bernard Girma

    I might be able to help you, if you haven't found them yet, but I would need some more information.

    I guess that they maybe didn't come from Farsund, but from some other nearby parishes. And their last names might be something else way back in Norway. I would guess that their last name was originally their fathers last name, since people often started using their fathers last name instead of their patronymicon (Fathers first name + -sen or -datter) when they emigrated to US.

    Another problem that I have found about information from records in United States, is that dates and other information might not always be correct.

    I am from that area, so I might give it a try.

    Are they in FS FamilyTree? Do you have their PID's?

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  • JohnsonGreg
    JohnsonGreg ✭✭✭✭
    August 18, 2022

    Bernard,

    Is this Christian Christiansen and his wife the couple of interest?

    https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GDGM-RF1

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  • JohnsonGreg
    JohnsonGreg ✭✭✭✭
    August 18, 2022 edited August 18, 2022

    @Bernard Girma


    It appears that the above family search ID is likely correct. Josephine's family seemed to have traveled a bit and husband and wife are from different locations in Norway. She even went back to Norway for the birth of one son Arne where her full name was given as Elen Josefine Gustine Andersen.

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-B3PP-KWP6?cc=4237104

    So their records point to various locations. But this (entry 46) is almost certainly her birth record in Kvelde, Hedrum Parish, Vestfold.

    https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/5917/30301/98

    She was in Rogaland in 1900 (it states she was born in Kvelde)

    https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037263000355

    Her return from Norway to Chicago in 1911 with sons Arne born in Norway and Carl born in Chicago.

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T4-SLHW?i=788&cc=1368704&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJJG7-PQM


    A sister born in Egersund, Rogaland. (the 1911 immigration erroneously says Josephine was born in Egersund but actually the family moved there later.

    https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000020949370


    Here she is in a different location (Hordaland) in the 1891 census with her parents and siblings:

    https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052966004285


    Here is her parents marriage in 1877 (entry 9) giving their birth dates and father's names

    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHK-93PP-YD6L?cc=4237104&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A68Q7-2MMD

    Parents familysearch IDs (not linked yet to Josephine)

    https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/MFGM-CQ2


    This may be her grandfather Anders Petter Johannesen in the Egersund 1875 census. It appears he is from Sweden

    https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052242000363

    In some records he is from Elfsborg Sweden which is now apparently called Frölunda

    https://geographic.org/geographic_names/name.php?uni=-3412401&fid=5901&c=sweden

    Another Elfsborg Sweden

    https://mapcarta.com/N5107847242


    It might be that Elfsborg is Älvsborg Län Sweden.

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  • AudMarit
    AudMarit ✭✭
    August 18, 2022

    @Bernard Girma

    If the persons @JohnsonGreg linked to is correct, which I also think is correct, Christian Edvard Christensen was my mothers 9th cousin 😀

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  • JohnsonGreg
    JohnsonGreg ✭✭✭✭
    August 18, 2022 edited August 18, 2022

    I think this might be a Bråttensby, Älvsborg, Sverige census record of your Anders Petter Johannesen and his parents and siblings. The 21 August 1851 birthdate matches and the location is similar to the Bråthuberg, Elfsborg, Sverige location indexed in his marriage record. Looking at the actual image of the marriage record the location is likely Bråttensby.

    https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/GDB5-VHY

    a new familysearch ID for this one with his parents/siblings: GDB5-VHY

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