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duplicates of living people

Susan Caskey
Susan Caskey ✭
March 16 in Suggest an Idea

We are encouraged to add living people and becuz of privacy issues... we are generating multiple ID's for the same person.... a nightmare! Someone ought to be able to come up with an algorithm that would eliminate the duplicates....

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  • Susan Caskey
    Susan Caskey ✭
    March 16

    please create a software for the living duplicates! urgent!

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  • Julia Szent-Györgyi
    Julia Szent-Györgyi ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 16

    Encouraged by whom?

    It is necessary to be able to add the occasional living profile, in order to connect deceased people properly, but those living profiles are just connectors: they needn't contain any information beyond what you (the person entering it) need for identification. If that's "Mom-Mom", then enter the name as "Mom-Mom". It makes absolutely no difference if your mom enters her as "Mother", nor does it matter one whit that you both have such connectors referring to the same person.

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  • Brett .
    Brett . ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 16

    @Susan Caskey

    Susan

    I am just another 'lowly' User/Patron ...

    Just in passing ...

    In the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch' ...

    'No', we are NOT encouraged, to create "Living" individuals/persons.

    We are REQUIRED, to create "Living" individuals/persons, IF we WANT to link/connect together with OTHER "Living" Family members; especially, those who are also Users/Patrons.

    And, especially, if one, IS a Member of the Church; where, our "Living" IMMEDIATE Family members, were AUTOMATICALLY created, by the "System", from our "Membership Records" of the Church.

    As for those of us, Users/Patrons, who are Members of the Church, OUR 'FamilySearch' Accounts were/are AUTOMATICALLY propagated with, our IMMEDIATE "Living" Family members; thus, creating ("Living") "Duplicates" of such; and, ESPECAILLY, for MANY of us, such was quite extensive, with the introduction of "Private Spaces", in 2014.

    ALSO, for Users/Patrons, who are Members of the Church; when, it comes to the Tenets of the Church (ie. "Temple" Work), we like to have ALL our, Family; and, EXTENDED Family, CONNECTIONS is place, for "Temple" Work; and, the "Sharing" of such.

    One DOES NOT, have to create "Living" individuals/person, if one does not want to either, 'see'; or, to link/connect together with OTHER "Living" Family members; especially those, who are also Users/Patrons.

    The choice is yours.

    The REASON, that we are REQUIRED, to create "Living" individuals/persons, IF we WANT to link/connect together with OTHER "Living" Family members; especially those, who are also Users/Patrons, is BECAUSE of "Privacy".

    Please be, aware; and, advised ...

    That we can ONLY 'see' "Deceased" individuals/persons, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'; except, with this 'rider', that one can ALSO only 'see' the "Living" individual/person, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', that one created; as, they reside in one's "Private Spaces".

    No other User/Patron, can 'see' ANY "Living" individuals/persons, that were created by another User/Patron; as, they ONLY reside in the "Private Spaces", of the User/Patron who created them.

    We CANNOT even 'see', the ACTUAL Record, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', of our IMMEDIATE Family (eg. Spouse; Children; Parents; Siblings; ETC; Etc; etc), if they are "Living"; and, they have their own 'FamilySearch' Account.

    Of course, you can create your "Living" Family members; and, record them in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'; but, they will ONLY be seen by you:

    ▬ You cannot "Share" them with any other User/Patron.

    ▬ You cannot "Merge"/'Combine" them, with any other "Living" individual/person, residing in the "Private Spaces", of another User//Patron.

    There is CURRENTLY, no mechanism, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', for Users/Patrons, to "Share"; or, "give permission" to "Share", the "Living" individuals/persons, in their own "Private Spaces", with/between other/another User(s)/Patron(s).

    There are a myriad of "Privacy" Laws, within the many various, Countries; and, Unions, throughout the World - it is a nightmare to negotiate.

    The "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', is used in many, Countries; and, Unions, throughout the World; and, as such, must adhere to the myriad of "Privacy" Laws, throughout the World.

    Hence, "Privacy" is one of the reasons that we cannot "Share" the "Living" individuals/persons in our own "Private Spaces" - it is NOT the ONLY reason; but, certainly has a bearing on the matter.

    Another factor, is that such would have to be 'Coded'/'Programmed', into the Programme, that is the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch'.

    'Yes', these "Living" individuals/persons, in the "Family Tree" Part, of 'FamilySearch', WILL, in fact, in many (most) cases will be "Duplicated" - unfortunately a necessary situation that currently cannot be avoided.

    I know, that there are "Duplicates", of the "Living" ME - at least, one for my Wife and each of our Children, not to mention my other ("Living") extended Family members.

    Here are some "Knowledge Articles", in 'FamilySearch', in regard to "Private Spaces"; and, "Living" individuals/persons:

    Who can see my living relatives in Family Tree?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/who-can-see-my-living-relatives-in-family-tree

    How does Family Tree protect the privacy of living people?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/what-is-a-private-space-in-family-tree

    What Family Tree features are available in my private space?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/family-tree-features-available-in-my-private-space

    Can my living relatives share a Family Tree private space to work together?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/share-a-family-tree-private-space-with-family

    Can I transfer my Family Tree private space to another user?

    https://www.familysearch.org/help/helpcenter/article/transfer-my-family-tree-private-space-to-another-user 

    Plus ...

    'FamilySearch', has been 'grappling', with the SHARING, of "Living" individuals/persons, between "Living" Users/Patrons; and, 'working' on this, for, MANY; Many; many, Years.

    There DOES appear to be some progress ...

    Especially, with the recent implementation, of the NEW "Family Groups".

    Currently, the 'premise' of "Family Groups" is:

    PRIMARILY: for the "Sharing" of "Temple" Work, for Users/Patrons who are Member of the Church; and, 

    SECONDARY: a form of "Group" 'Messaging' Tool, for ALL User/Patrons

    But, there has been 'Talk', in this Forum, that has suggested, that "Family Groups" MAY later, include a 'component', to enable the "Sharing", of the "Living" individuals/persons, in our "Private Spaces", between members of the particular 'Group'; as, a "Family Group" is, in fact, a "Closed" PRIVATE 'Group', with somewhat of a 'Modicum', of "Privacy".

    We can but live in hope ...

    Things are NOT; as, SIMPLE; and, EASY; as, most people think/believe ...

    Just my thoughts.

    I know, that this may not help/assist; but, I hope, that this provides you, with some additional, insight; and, perspective.

    Brett

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