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Denis Oram
Denis Oram ✭
August 16, 2021 in Social Groups

Can anybody help me find more about James Edward Oram, please. He was born to Edward Oram and Ann Towler on 21 August 1842 at Collingbourne Ducis, Wiltshire. His younger brother, Charles Henry Oram, born 28 May 1844, in Collingbourne is my great grandfather and I have plenty of information about him! I can, however, find no more about James. There is an Edward James Oram on a later census and I have wondered whether James preferred his second name, but, again, I have found no more about him either.

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  • ElaineNewbold1
    ElaineNewbold1 ✭✭
    August 22, 2021 Answer ✓

    The Ancestry record was dated 1870 the record set seems not all related to WW1


    Name:James Edward Oram

    Gender:Male

    Enlistment Age:25

    Birth Place:Collingbourne Ducis, Wiltshire

    Military Date:1870

    Relationship to Soldier:Self (Head)

    Regimental Number:1500e

    Number of Images:5

    Form Title:Attestation

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  • ElaineNewbold1
    ElaineNewbold1 ✭✭
    August 16, 2021

    I have found a mention to him  in the UK, British Army World War I Service Records, 1914-192

    https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=1219&h=1517170&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=8767

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  • Denis Oram
    Denis Oram ✭
    August 17, 2021

    Thank you, Elaine, for your prompt reply. Unfortunately I have only recently unsubscribed from Ancestry so cannot use your link without re-subscribing. I cannot, really, justify this expense as there are many "James Oram"s and no evidence that this one is correct. Having been born in 1842, my James would have been over seventy at the outbreak of World War 1. I do thank you for your reply.

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  • Paul W
    Paul W ✭✭✭✭✭
    August 18, 2021 edited August 18, 2021

    @Denis Oram

    Sorry I cannot be of direct help, but I assume you have read the theory of "BillyD" in the Collaboration section of James' profile at KZ16-VJ1 in Family Tree.

    As you say, the "record hint" of the WW1 Service Record would appear not to apply to him (because of his age), but it might be worth checking out the original document, as I could find nobody else of the same name with a Collingbourne Ducis birthplace. I found a record just now for another (apparently unrelated) James Edward Oram (on the Discovery, National Archives website). This was for a person in the Home Guard in WW2. This gave me the idea that WW1 records might not just apply to those in active service, but might include other roles, too.

    However, no death record is found at FreeBMD, so maybe (as BillyD suggests) he did go to India (or elsewhere abroad) and did not die in England.

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  • Denis Oram
    Denis Oram ✭
    August 22, 2021

    Thank you so very much, Elaine. This looks like the real deal! I'll follow that up, as much as I can, but not for a while. Thank you, again. This is extremely promising. It might well be that a family rumour could be correct, whereby he went off to India.

    If you are reading this, Paul W, I am the BillyD who, in a previous session, entered the story, which at the time was quite unfounded. Now it might turn out to be correct. Whilst helping in the local Family History Centre, I pored over quite a lot of the films concerning India, which another patron was hiring but to no avail. Now Elaine could be pointing me in another direction. Thank you both.

    Denis.

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