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Need help with places in Danish Marriage Record and words in 1803 Denmark Census

DebbieRose
DebbieRose ✭
March 11, 2021 edited March 12, 2021 in Social Groups

1) In the November 1802 marriage record below, I would like to know the place/word where Jef Hansen was of. Also, Anna Mette Bangs was of Vester Vedsted, but what is the word after "Bangs?" Vester Vedsted Parish, (Ribe, Denmark), “Enesteministerialblog, 1665-1814: 1773 V- 1811V,” p. 29, Rigsarkivet (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/en/billedviser?epid=17127928#171982,28874065

Bang Marriage2) In the 1803 Census Jef Hanses's profession was Hufner. Also, the two elders in the household had the profession of Abnahmeleute. What were these professions? Additionally, the child in the household was "ersteren Schwester Sohn" which seems to translate to first sister son. Is there any way to know if it's the husband or wife's nephew?

1803 Census of Denmark, Vester Vedsted, Ribe, Ribe, Denmark, Family no. 11, Anne Mette Bangs; DanishFamilySearch (https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid1979985. Also, Rigsarkivet (https://ddd.dda.dk/asp/alle_opl.asp.

Thank you!

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  • Shari Duce
    Shari Duce ✭✭✭
    March 11, 2021

    The word after Bangs is begge meaning "both". https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171982#171982,28874065

     

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  • Shari Duce
    Shari Duce ✭✭✭
    March 11, 2021

    It's possible Hans Jepsen is the father of the groom. Possible match seen in a not too far away parish, Tjæreborg in the 1787 and 1801 censuses.

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  • DebbieRose
    DebbieRose ✭
    March 11, 2021

    Thank you! I will check the 1787 and 1801 censuses for that. It seens that he's from Vester Vedsted ("Both"), but do we know what the place after "Jef Hansen of" is?

    Also, any guess on the professions in the 1803 census?

    Thank you so much for your help!

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  • Shari Duce
    Shari Duce ✭✭✭
    March 11, 2021

    This record indicates the couple are "both" from Vester Vedsted. From that parish, but not necessarily born there. I think it's a good possibility that Jef (Jep) is born in Tjæreborg. I looked at the military levying roll to see if I could find a man born in 1770 with a father named Hans and yes there is. He goes on the roll when it starts in 1791 and the father is Hans Jepsen. The next roll a year later shows the same father/son entry. 1875 this individual is marked off the roll, so he is released from his military obligation. It was my hope we would be able to "follow" him from Tjæreborg parish to Vester Vedsted. https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17828,915397 and then https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17832,916448 and last entry: https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17834,916876

    When you examine the 1787 census you likely won't see Jef (Jep) with his family because he is old enough to be out of the home. If you study the christenings of his children you may see witnesses that match his parents or siblings.

     

     

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  • Shari Duce
    Shari Duce ✭✭✭
    March 11, 2021

    Possible match 1818 death for Hans Jepsen (80 years old) in Vester Vedsted https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=21638078#402271,74540181

     

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  • Shari Duce
    Shari Duce ✭✭✭
    March 11, 2021

    1808 death of Maren Laursdatter, wife of Hans Jepsen (Jefsen) of Vester Vedsted 80 years 2 months 3 weeks old. https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?bsid=171981#171981,28874033

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  • DebbieRose
    DebbieRose ✭
    March 12, 2021

    Once again, thank you for all of your help!

    Before I reached out I had seen Hans Jepsen in the earlier censuses in Tjæreborg, but his wife was not identified as Maren and I put it aside. I still have to look into the discrepancy in wives' names to make sure it is the same father and son, but your guidance to the military rolls is great!

    I do have a follow up question on the rolls. I was able to find the 1795 roll where Jef was removed from the military. https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=16481031#17834,916876

    The new residence listed is obviously not Vester Vedsted, but I can not make out what it does say. Can you identify the place?

    Also, am I correct that the comments say he was a "LS" rural land soldier? Do any of the comments explain why he was release?

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  • Shari Duce
    Shari Duce ✭✭✭
    March 12, 2021

    He could have had two wives, explaining the different names. It says he was living in Krogsgaard (village in Tjæreburg) at the time of his release but I'm unable to determine why he was released, sorry.

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  • DebbieRose
    DebbieRose ✭
    March 12, 2021

    No problem- I appreciate all of your help.

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