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I would appreciate help translating the key elements of the attached estate record. I believe it is

Sandy Fate
Sandy Fate ✭
January 18, 2021 edited January 30, 2021 in Social Groups

His wife was Cajsa Jonsdotter. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

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  • Sandy Fate
    Sandy Fate ✭
    January 18, 2021

    Also here are pages 2, 3 & 4 of the estate record. Was he wealthy?

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  • Sandy Fate
    Sandy Fate ✭
    January 18, 2021
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  • Heidi Kuosmanen
    Heidi Kuosmanen ✭✭✭
    January 18, 2021

    Rusthållaren Jaen Persson from Ekeberg died at 18 Jun 1822 and his widowed 2nd wife Brita Jonadotter, they had children Lars and Stina.

     

    (Rusthållaren was a farmer that contributed to maintain cavalry soldier and horse.) 

     

    His death record is here: https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0017017_00218

    And household record: https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0016986_00129

     

    In marriage record wife's name is Brita Catharina Jonsdotter (married at 28 Dec 1796 in Åsby: https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0014740_00228)

     

    Problem solved, same wife, in household record she is a Caisa, a common name and in estate record she is Brita, her first name.

     

    And yes, he was quite wealthy.

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  • Sandy Fate
    Sandy Fate ✭
    January 21, 2021

    Heidi, thank you so much for your help and the additional records you provided. You've been a big help to me and I appreciate it. Johan Persson is shown as (Jaen)on the death record. Do you know if Johan and Jaen are interchangeable names? Most records seems to indicate he was Johan. Also, I'm trying to find his birth record and possible information on his parents but it doesn't appear the records go back that far. He was born 28 June 1736 in Mjölby. Do you have access to birth records that far back? If so, I'd appreciate you sharing them with me.

     

    Thank you again,

     

    Sandy

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  • Heidi Kuosmanen
    Heidi Kuosmanen ✭✭✭
    January 23, 2021

    I think that Johan was his real name and Jaen was like a common name for him.

    It might be difficult or even impossible to find his parents and if he was really born in Mjölby, there is no way to find his birth record because birth and baptism books start from 1771.

    If his parents lived long there is a slight possibility to find then in the earliest household record 1789-1806.

    Books of deaths and burials start from 1772 but in it there are no notes for any relationships for older people.

     

    Here is that earliest household record. Some lines under Johan Persson it mentiones his Mother Brita Nilsdotter b. 8.2.1713 in Mjölby, married 1731 and died at 11.5.1795.

    His father Per must have died before 1789. You can search death record for years 1772-1788 for Per, from Ekeberg with age that gives birth year about 1680-1710

    Mjölby kyrkoarkiv, Husförhörslängder, SE/VALA/00249/A I/1 (1789-1806), bildid: C0016983_00050, sida 83

    https://sok.riksarkivet.se/bildvisning/C0016983_00050

     

     

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  • Heidi Kuosmanen
    Heidi Kuosmanen ✭✭✭
    January 23, 2021

    You can also try to find the estate records when his mother died at 1795. If there is one it should mention the father also.

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  • Sandy Fate
    Sandy Fate ✭
    January 23, 2021

    Heidi, thank you for your feedback and great suggestions. I found Brita Nilsdotter's estate record from 1795 which I have attached. I'm usually avoid looking for estate records because I can't read swedish and most of it is unclear to me. Would you please interpret her estate record and provide me with the pertinent family names. I think her husband may have been Petter Andersson. I found an estate record for Per Andersson in Ekeberg Mjölby in 1763. This may be him but i would have to order a copy as it's not available for viewing online. I'm looking forwarding to hearing back from you. Thank you Sandy

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  • Heidi Kuosmanen
    Heidi Kuosmanen ✭✭✭
    January 24, 2021

    Sandy, great news, but I think you forgot to add that Brita Nilsdotter's estate record.

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  • Sandy Fate
    Sandy Fate ✭
    January 24, 2021

    Oh yes, thank you. Here it is.

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  • Sandy Fate
    Sandy Fate ✭
    January 24, 2021
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  • Sandy Fate
    Sandy Fate ✭
    January 30, 2021

    Would it be possible to translate the Estate Record of Brita Nilsdotter attached above and provide me with the pertinent family names. I think her husband may have been Petter Andersson. I found an estate record for Per Andersson in Ekeberg Mjölby in 1763. This may be him but I would have to order a copy as it's not available for viewing online. Thank you for your help. Sandy

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