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Latin question! What does 2dum conguin* line mean?

Elizabeth Sue Hutchison
Elizabeth Sue Hutchison ✭
March 6, 2020 edited March 11, 2020 in Social Groups
Latin question! What does 2dum conguin* line mean?

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I took a picture of the document in question. The entry starts with “Codem die.” Right in the middle, to the right edge, I am having problems understanding what the meaning of “super 2dum conguinita...”, or whatever those letters are, is in Latin. A second something, or another?

 

Let me know what it means. Is it a shortened form of consanguinitas? Were they closely related? Or is it something to do with the word conjugum? Maybe it isn’t even a c in the first place?

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  • Fritz Juengling
    Fritz Juengling ✭✭✭
    March 6, 2020

    The couple was granted a dispensation because they were related by blood in the 2nd degree.

    See this article about dispensations from the Catholic Encyclopedia (the link is off to the right in blue):

    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05041a.htm

     

    Also have a look at this article from Wikipedia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consanguinity

     

    BTW, be wary of the numbers on the chart in the article from wikipedia. They do not refer to degree of sanguinity as is stated in the document.

     

    I am not sure exactly what 2nd degree means--it could mean first or second cousins, as we understand those terms. But I do not know.

     

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  • Fritz Juengling
    Fritz Juengling ✭✭✭
    March 6, 2020

    If you trace the ancestors of these people, you should be able to figure it out pretty quickly. I would be very interested to know what you learn--how they were related.

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  • Werner Vols
    Werner Vols ✭
    March 9, 2020

    They are married with dispensation meaning they are second cousins to each other ;-)

    Kind regards

    Werner Vols

     

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  • A van Helsdingen
    A van Helsdingen ✭✭✭✭✭
    March 11, 2020

    A second degree consanguity is usually a first cousin relationship when used in Catholic records.

     

    See: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04264a.htm

     

     

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  • Adrien Kintziger
    Adrien Kintziger ✭✭✭
    March 11, 2020

    A rather magnificent site,and the first time i see it,thanks for presenting it..

    Adrie

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  • Werner Vols
    Werner Vols ✭
    March 11, 2020

    Thank for the website saved with favorit's

    Kind regards

    Werner

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  • Fritz Juengling
    Fritz Juengling ✭✭✭
    March 11, 2020

    A van Helsdingen (I don't know your entire name, but welcome aboard!),

    thank you so much for pointing out that article in the Catholic Encyclopedia. I pointed out the article on Dispensation, but not that one, so thanks for doing so.

     

    The Catholic Encyclopedia is a fabulous source for all sorts of information and I use it quite often. It's indispensable for our work as genealogists. There is a link to it off to the right in blue: - The Catholic Encyclopedia

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